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Title: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: New 2 Veg on September 14, 2008, 18:05:04
Visit this website if you are new 2 growing vegetables & fruit

Hey Look Admin Removed the Link!

I DO NOT have any connection with this website. (i just thouught i would name my account after it because after all i am "new 2 veg" )

Enjoy,

N.2.V

P.S Hi, Im a newbie here & i have just got an allotment. This website helped me alot though

(http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/Themes/classic/images/warnpmod.gif) Promoting own website
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: ceres on September 14, 2008, 18:34:12
How did it help you? 
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: katynewbie on September 14, 2008, 19:04:20
 :-\

Hey, here's the thing...it seems to ask money from people to join. All the advice here is free.

Spot the difference?

>:(
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: OllieC on September 14, 2008, 19:15:31
Oh, come on please!!!! If you want to plug your new site, that's between you & Dan. But there's no need to insult our intelligence at the same time!
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: New 2 Veg on September 14, 2008, 19:24:17
(Sorry) I found that site before this one. sorry for insulting you.

But as you can probably see there are nice people on the other site
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: springbok on September 14, 2008, 19:27:40
I am new to growing, but think i get better advice here at Allotments4All from EXPERTS doing it for years and its FREE!!! :D :D :D

Not going to pay £20 for advice!!...
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: OllieC on September 14, 2008, 19:31:46
Perhaps I'm wrong, and if so you have my apologies. But someone comes on here, as a newbie (and by the way, we're generally a very welcoming bunch!), with the same name as a rival website, plugging that website. The website itself appears to want £20 for me to use it... before I have a rummage around?

Please can you let us know how this other website helped, and be open about any link you have to it?
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: asbean on September 14, 2008, 21:40:18
Welcome to A4A, New2Veg, however, I'm not impressed with the site with your name.

1) they want money up front (OK so it's for a starter kit, you can see what that is but what about the help/forum etc? - Can't see that until you've paid your £20).  You can get all that stuff from Wilkos for a tenner anyway.

2) their contact page doesn't work. So there's no way I'd part with ANY money unless I knew who I was paying my money to.

3) they don't know their apostrophe's from their elbow's.  When people post on forums it's like talking with your fingers: typos, spelling grammar etc don't matter as it's the message that's being got across.  But on a website it's INEXCUSABLE.

4) There are lots of forums around, the best way to find one that suits you is to lurk on the site, read the posts and join if you feel you would fit in.
Quote from: New 2 Veg on September 14, 2008, 19:24:17
(Sorry) I found that site before this one. sorry for insulting you.

But as you can probably see there are nice people on the other site
It's impossible to see if they are nice people without paying first.
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Amazin on September 15, 2008, 00:40:32
No picture of the Starter Booklet available? Quelle surprise! Wonder when it'll be written?

If it looks like a scam and is priced like a scam...

The only help I can see it giving is to the owner's bank account.


Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Eristic on September 15, 2008, 02:40:29
Without a doubt the best website about allotments after this one has to be mine.  8) http://downtheplot.com (http://downtheplot.com)

PS. I have no shame and any donations will be gladly accepted.
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: kt. on September 15, 2008, 06:56:51
Welcome to the site New2Veg. 

I am happy to keep paying my £10 subscription on this site for posting my pictures and have no intention to subscribe to another.  Other than that,  like others say - all advice on here is free.  Plus there is also lots of inspiration by viewing other A4A members blogs for free and they can also view mine for free. 
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Baccy Man on September 15, 2008, 10:00:15
Quote from: asbean on September 14, 2008, 21:40:18
1) they want money up front (OK so it's for a starter kit, you can see what that is but what about the help/forum etc? - Can't see that until you've paid your £20).  You can get all that stuff from Wilkos for a tenner anyway.

I'm afraid I  have to disagree with your cost, I could put the kit together for £3.50 in my local pound shop or even less (£2.10) if I purchased the items in bulk as my local pound shop offers a 40% discount when you buy a whole case of something.
1 block of compressed coir £1
1 pair of gardening gloves £1
1 identical 3 piece garden hand tool set £1
1 packet salad leave seeds, haven't got a clue but salad leaf seeds are £0.25
1 packet vegetable seeds £0.25
Above 2 are based on seed varieties which are available in the pound shop @ 4 packs for £1
That leaves £16.50 (or £17.90 if I bought kit items in bulk) to cover the cost of the booklet P+P & membership fee.

Quote from: asbean on September 14, 2008, 21:40:18
2) their contact page doesn't work. So there's no way I'd part with ANY money unless I knew who I was paying my money to.
I agree entirely I always look for contact details & search the web for more info about the site to see if anyone else has had problems with them before making a purchase from a site new to me.
Interestingly the new2veg sites registrant informed nominet they are a non trading individual which is questionable in my opinion, they really should correct that.

Quote from: asbean on September 14, 2008, 21:40:18
4) There are lots of forums around, the best way to find one that suits you is to lurk on the site, read the posts and join if you feel you would fit in.
Quote from: New 2 Veg on September 14, 2008, 19:24:17
(Sorry) I found that site before this one. sorry for insulting you.

But as you can probably see there are nice people on the other site
It's impossible to see if they are nice people without paying first.
If you look at the join page you will notice the forum is coming soon it is not actually active yet the same goes for the online shop so you can't browse either even if you did pay the membership fee.
All you appear to get for your £20 is your kit, the option to browse the website, & the live support assuming they were actually online at the same time as you.


Eristic could you match all this if we donated £20 to http://downtheplot.com ;D
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Eristic on September 15, 2008, 17:05:37
QuoteEristic could you match all this if we donated £20 to http://downtheplot.com Grin

I don't offer the gift pack or a forum as neither would offer added benefit to my site or the visitors. Anyone is welcome to view the pages and bookmark them free of any charge, the odd surplus seeds that get offered for sale always turn up in A4A seed swap parcels or could be had free by sending me a PM from here.

Websites of this nature do cost money to keep running and I am hoping eventually to get a respectable garden firm to sponsor it but as yet I have not bothered to approach any.

There are so many variables associated with growing veg on the allotment that any one source of feedback information is very likely to be either incorrect or at best ambiguous whereas a post on this forum will get read by a hundred different folks in a very short space of time and a number of answers proffered.
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: cornykev on September 18, 2008, 17:30:52
I don'y think new2veg will be back, probably finding some new cheapy tools for his/her starter pack, you would think that he/she would have picked a different user name, being the same name as their site sort of give it away,  ??? now wheres the fun in that, its like fox hunters chasing a fox on crutches.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Jeannine on September 18, 2008, 20:17:48
Horsefeathers!!
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Emagggie on September 18, 2008, 20:34:36
Can't even see the web site now, it comes up then disappears on my 'puter.
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Duke Ellington on September 18, 2008, 21:41:48
Its CRAP!!

Duke
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Eristic on September 19, 2008, 01:10:28
And I am still waiting for my flood of 20's. 8)
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: Amazin on September 20, 2008, 00:02:00
Patience, mate, I'm printing as fast as I can!

;D
Title: Re: New Vegetable Gardening Website
Post by: cornykev on September 20, 2008, 11:31:19
Can I pay mine in monthly installments Eristic.   ;D ;D ;D