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Title: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: Kendy on September 06, 2008, 20:46:39
This is possibly a daft question due to lack of experience but here goes...

Went up the lottie for the 1st time for a week due to the rain etc and discovered these growing on my spuds.  The spuds are either Sarpo or Juliette - can't remember which way round I planted my rows (and the labels have faded).

They smell like tomatoes .....

(http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Kendadj/DSC00340.jpg)
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: davyw1 on September 06, 2008, 20:55:40
That is the seed of the potato, they could smell off tomato as they are from the same family.
Its quite normal, nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: OllieC on September 06, 2008, 20:56:15
Don't eat them - call the Samaritans if you need someone to talk things through...
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: Kendy on September 06, 2008, 21:05:20
Knew it would turn out to be a daft question  :P
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: asbean on September 06, 2008, 21:10:02
Not half as daft as some of the questions we've had lately  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: thifasmom on September 06, 2008, 21:14:24
Quote from: OllieC on September 06, 2008, 20:56:15
Don't eat them - call the Samaritans if you need someone to talk things through...

;D this made me laugh, but seriously don't eat as they are poisonous, this year mine didn't fruit and i was already to save seeds to try growing from seed just as a curiosity/ experiment to see what the crop would be like ???.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: kenkew on September 06, 2008, 21:18:04
Cut the leaves down to 4"........wait 2 weeks. Dig 'em up.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: Plot69 on September 06, 2008, 21:38:52
Just wait and see what you get when you pull your tomato plants up  ::)
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: Kendy on September 07, 2008, 00:14:18
Quote from: Plot69 on September 06, 2008, 21:38:52
Just wait and see what you get when you pull your tomato plants up  ::)

That would be a surprise seeing as how I haven't planted any ! :)

Just one question remains (and I probably should know this from O level Biology but it was over 32 years ago !) - if the tomato looking thing is a seed, what is the potato we replant as a seed potato ?






Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: Rosa_Mundi on September 07, 2008, 01:54:10
I believe it's a tuber, or type of root.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: Baccy Man on September 07, 2008, 02:34:29
The tomato like thing is a seedpod you can create your own variety of potatoes from the seed contained within it if you want to.

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,43114.msg432219.html#msg432219
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: tim on September 07, 2008, 08:12:43
Why, Ken??
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: Kendy on September 07, 2008, 23:56:49
Quote from: Baccy Man on September 07, 2008, 02:34:29
The tomato like thing is a seedpod you can create your own variety of potatoes from the seed contained within it if you want to.

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,43114.msg432219.html#msg432219

Thanks for that.  Fascinating subject - might try this one year but probably not this as I have got enough to do.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: keef on September 08, 2008, 00:07:59
I thought it was dodgy to grow spuds from your own saved seed.. The seeds will be a hybrid of what ever varities you've grown that year - and could turn out to be poisonous.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: nastybritishgardener on September 08, 2008, 04:17:50
Quote from: keef could turn out to be poisonous.
Where did here this one?
Since It is false on all counts.

As for
Quote from: keefThe seeds will be a hybrid of what ever varieties you've grown that year 
that is how most new veg varieties get created.
Quote from: keef
I thought it was dodgy to grow spuds from your own saved seed.
Where did hear this bunk. Since it is no more dodgy then creating any other hybrid veg.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: grawrc on September 08, 2008, 06:53:02
I suppose a potential problem might be that it would be difficult to know what the particular properties - strengths and weaknesses - of the new plant might be and therefore how to tend it. Mind you spuds of all sorts seem to be fairly straightforward, but then, if you are a relatively inexperienced gardener, you'd probavly rather go with the tried and tested than experiment with the unknown.

I usually remove the fruit on the basis that if the plant is using energy on producing fruit it's not using it on swelling the tubers, Anyway if it is producing fruit it presumably has already flowered so should be ready for lifting.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: OllieC on September 08, 2008, 07:32:36
Quote from: keef on September 08, 2008, 00:07:59
I thought it was dodgy to grow spuds from your own saved seed.. The seeds will be a hybrid of what ever varieties you've grown that year - and could turn out to be poisonous.

You're absolutely correct keef. Apparently there are a number of wonderful tasting spuds that can't be released due to the toxic levels of solanine. And anyone who's ever tried producing new hybrids of anything will know that the chance of producing anything better than the professionals is pretty remote!
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: PurpleHeather on September 08, 2008, 07:39:06
As I understand it, when potatoes were first introduced into Europe, some people thought that the fruit was what they were supposed to eat and it all ended tragically.

Of course, they did not have the benefit of our advanced experience and education.


lmao
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: keef on September 08, 2008, 09:55:54
Quote from: nastybritishgardener on September 08, 2008, 04:17:50
Quote from: keef could turn out to be poisonous.
Where did here this one?
Since It is false on all counts.

As for
Quote from: keefThe seeds will be a hybrid of what ever varieties you've grown that year 
that is how most new veg varieties get created.
Quote from: keef
I thought it was dodgy to grow spuds from your own saved seed.
Where did hear this bunk. Since it is no more dodgy then creating any other hybrid veg.


So i guess you think i'm wrong then  ::)

OllieC's post explains my thinking. A mate of mine used to share digs at Cambridge with a bloke who was doing a PHD on spuds.. I think it was him who told me about it.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: alienwithaview on September 08, 2008, 10:04:09
Does this help? Whether to grow from seed or from a tuber will be determined by what you are trying to achieve:
If you want the next season of plants / crop to be a (more or less) exact replica of the plants / spuds you just had, you need to use the tuber: it will multiply (a bit like a clone, perhaps with a few "natural mutations" due to external factors) and simply reproduce itself.
If you use the seeds, you might get something that has only one half of the properties of your parent plant.
This works for fruit: this is why you take cuttings from fruit bushes (=basically the same bush, just regrowing) as opposed to using the seeds (it would be a new plant in the true genetic sense)

Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: OllieC on September 08, 2008, 10:07:39
Quote from: keef on September 08, 2008, 09:55:54
OllieC's post explains my thinking. A mate of mine used to share digs at Cambridge with a bloke who was doing a PHD on spuds.. I think it was him who told me about it.

So, this spudologist mate of yours, did he know his onions?!?!  :P
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: growmore on September 08, 2008, 10:50:50
I am wondering Same as Tim..Why chop em down Ken? 


Title: Re: Are my potatoes poisonous?
Post by: Bean_Queen on September 08, 2008, 11:11:51
How could the offspring of a potato become poisonous?  I don't get it. The potato seedball is poisonous, I grant you, but if you let the seeds grow into actual spuds, why would they be toxic?

PS. I've been googling to find out, and I've found the Potato Breeder's Handbook on the net, but haven't the time to read it: http://www.sharebooks.ca/ebooks_by_author2.php?author=Robinson%2C+Raoul+A.
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: OllieC on September 08, 2008, 12:26:25
There's a fairly good, brief explanation here on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato

Essentially, they're all a bit poisonous, but not enough to have any impact on a normal tattie muncher...
Title: Re: Are my potatoes turning into tomatoes?
Post by: star on September 09, 2008, 11:56:41
When you think the cousin of the potato and tomato are the nightshades.....which are prrretty toxic.

All belong to the solanacae family, I think leaving breeding to the professionals is probably better.

Unless anyone wants lunch? 8)