another question! Does anyone have any figures (approx are fine) for yield for say moneymaker tomatoes per plant in a season?
I said I was going to keep records but never did. the varieties produced plenty. I will say the early variety quit producing by August which is perhaps all one can expect.
The Liverpool gardener probably kept meticulous records! maybe he'll write an answer for you.
production records from someone else growing a variety really will not help you.
How you prep the soil other growing factors is what matter.
I suggest you get a copy of
Colin Bowcocks book how grow giant vegetables, from uk and
How to Grow World Record Tomatoes: Charles Wilber from AL USA
Both grew huge amounts of tomatoes from one plant.
There methods will make you a better grower.
Quote from: legless on August 28, 2008, 21:03:42
another question! Does anyone have any figures (approx are fine) for yield for say moneymaker tomatoes per plant in a season?
Grown outdoor aprox 4lb per plant
Grown indoor aprox 8lb per plant
Be careful, at least one person on here learnt how to weigh tomatoes from a fisherman... I shall name no names!!! ;)
davyw1 most of my plants produce about 15lb -25lb per plant.
olliec I see you still can not contribute to garden thread in meaning full way. What a pity.
Out of respect for the original poster, please try to remain on topic!
olliec try following your own advice before trying to dictate to others.
The RHS have a number of trial reports on tomatoes. The yields in the 1990 report on standard indeterminate tomatoes (grown in unheated plastic tunnel and stopped after 5 trusses) are mostly around 12-16 kg for 6 plants - around 4-5 lbs per plant apart from Outdoor Girl which produced over 7lbs per plant.
http://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/trial_and_award.asp (http://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/trial_and_award.asp) enter tomato (not tomatoes) in the search box
I'm intrigued by your numbers TGG. Indoor hydroponic systems probably produce the heaviest yields but only up to about 3 times that of a normal allotment grown plant.
Perhaps you'd give a brief explanation of how you achieve these impressive yields - this forum does exist primarily assist others by sharing information.
Barnowl Try reading the books I listed my first post in this thread.
I don't understand tgg, I did not get the impression that the poster wanted to grow giant veggies, I think she was looking for yeild as in weight.
My second point is I am puzzled as to why you would not want to share your methods for heavy yeild with us, most of us do share info and seeds very willingly so I am very confused by your answer.
Your yeilds seem very impressive and I feel sure there are many readers who would appreciate your help to achieve what you do, after all we are talking food here so any help to increase yeild would be very valuable.
Perhaps for those who cannot affords a book you would share your knowledge with us please.
XX Jeannine
TGG It seems to me that one needs a lot of space to apply Wilbers methods (other than those that are just a matter of common sense). I suspect it would be totally impractical for me. Unless I had one or two giant plants, which would mean little variety of tomato and the loss of space for veg. How many square feet do you allow per plant?
The "read it in a book" response is not just irksome but, given the nature of this forum, approaching ill manners - unless of course you only know where the information is rather than what it is.
We have about 5 different plants and the wife and i have had toms with our sarnies in work for more than a month and made juice and soup so in poundage don't know but in eating a lot.But they took ages to go red and now are the sweetest ever
Jeannine the reason I listed the giant veg books because bowcock set set record of 20.25 lbs (9.1 kg)on single tomato truss. He also set a potato yield record from single seed potato. 515 lb (234 kg).
Charles Wilber grew 342 lbs of tomatoes on single plant.
Jeannine the bowcock book you can get out local library and
Charles Wilber info has been posted on the web.
Libraries that own the Bowcock book.
1. British Library Wetherby, W Yorkshire, LS23 7BQ United Kingdom
2. Buckinghamshire County Library Buckinghamshire, HP20 1UU United Kingdom
3. Cambridge University Cambridge, CB3 9DR United Kingdom
4. Kent County Council Arts & Library West Malling Kent, ME19 4A1 United Kingdom
5. London Borough of Hamersmith & Fulham London, W6 7AT United Kingdom
6. London Borough of Harrow Harrow, HA1 2UU United Kingdom
7. London Borough of Lewisham Lewisham, London, SE13 6TJ United Kingdom
8. Swansea City and County Council Swansea, SA1 3SN United Kingdom
9.University of Oxford Oxford, OX1 3LU United Kingdom
10.Trinity College, Dublin Dublin, 2 Ireland
But why won't you just tell us what you do, right here and now,is it a secret or a game I am not getting.
I am not trying to be rude but your response is not coming accross as helpful, rather it is annoying etc just as Barnowl said.
There has been teasing on other posts by the same type of response and I am hoping you will just join in and share with us as others do to avoid this. We all enjoy sharing and receiving info, please, I am asking you nicely just join in with us , surely that would be even quicker than a list of libraries.
Come on tgg, be friends and join in or please explain why you won't.
XX Jeannine
Barnowl I have the info and know where to find it But I am not in mood to type over 50 pages of information.
Barnow that depends on what consider a lot space.
This is just plain silly, why on earth you would even bother to respond to a posters serious question with this ridiculous attitude is beyond me. The sad thing is that you don't even see it.
I have tried to be fair but you appear to only want negative attention or there is something else wrong that I won't comment on.
It would appear to me now that you just trying to bait us once more to get angry with you and I am not prepared to try anymore with you.
You are a waste of time and space.
XX Jeannine
http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/0,7518,s1-5-19-634,00.html
http://www.doityourself.com/stry/tenstepsgianttomato
http://www.gvgo.ca/articles/interview_lyons01.html
There never typed a word ;D
Buster54 to bad the link are for large tomatoes. Not large production.
Also Jeannine I have previous posted some of my tomato growing Info.
Quote from: thegreatgardener on August 29, 2008, 20:36:03
Buster54 to bad the link are for large tomatoes. Not large production.
Also Jeannine I have previous posted some of my tomato growing Info.
Being new at growing, and studying the subject, I actually looked at all your posted threads! Apart from listing library books, I don't find any of your answers at all helpful, as I thought this subject would be quiet fascinating!!
Such a shame as you make out that you are knowledgeable, but actually no useful advice comes across in any of the subjects you have replied too.
Most of the posts are just blatantly putting other people's experiences in disrepute!
I have one question, why are you here????? Because its quite obvious its not to help anyone.
Why can't you just share some straight forward advice, so others like myself can actually learn something!!!!!.
Read the books you naughty little tomato growers and don't come back till you too have over 20lb off the first truss,can't see what the problem is myself. ::) :D ::)
Quote from: thegreatgardener on August 29, 2008, 16:55:30
Jeannine the reason I listed the giant veg books because bowcock set set record of 20.25 lbs (9.1 kg)on single tomato truss. He also set a potato yield record from single seed potato. 515 lb (234 kg).
Charles Wilber grew 342 lbs of tomatoes on single plant.
Jeannine the bowcock book you can get out local library and
Charles Wilber info has been posted on the web.
Libraries that own the Bowcock book.
1. British Library Wetherby, W Yorkshire, LS23 7BQ United Kingdom
2. Buckinghamshire County Library Buckinghamshire, HP20 1UU United Kingdom
3. Cambridge University Cambridge, CB3 9DR United Kingdom
4. Kent County Council Arts & Library West Malling Kent, ME19 4A1 United Kingdom
5. London Borough of Hamersmith & Fulham London, W6 7AT United Kingdom
6. London Borough of Harrow Harrow, HA1 2UU United Kingdom
7. London Borough of Lewisham Lewisham, London, SE13 6TJ United Kingdom
8. Swansea City and County Council Swansea, SA1 3SN United Kingdom
9.University of Oxford Oxford, OX1 3LU United Kingdom
10.Trinity College, Dublin Dublin, 2 Ireland
Cambridge University Library is not an open library. You can only borrow books if you are a member of the University.
When the Amateur Bush Tomato first became available I grew 24 plants from seed, I kept a record of the fruit picked, 2 1/4 cwt. That's a 114.5Kg or 4.77Kg per plant. I can't find any seed now.
That is interesting as tgg lives in the States LOL XX Jeannine
PS I have Amateur seed
Quote from: Barnowl on August 29, 2008, 16:39:27
TGG It seems to me that one needs a lot of space to apply Wilbers methods (other than those that are just a matter of common sense). I suspect it would be totally impractical for me. Unless I had one or two giant plants, which would mean little variety of tomato and the loss of space for veg. How many square feet do you allow per plant?
The "read it in a book" response is not just irksome but, given the nature of this forum, approaching ill manners - unless of course you only know where the information is rather than what it is.
I wasn't familiar with the Wilber book so Googled around and read he recommends planting toms 5 feet apart! Mine are more like 3 feet apart which I'll admit is too close yet they produced well (though not anything close to Wilber's). I'm uncertain about banking on fewer plants hoping for a heavier yield in case one gets diseased, eaten by horn worms etc. After seeing how the brassicas have been decimated I might delete them next year in favor of more toms ala Wilber.
Larkshall If don't have access to Cambridge Uni there are always 9 other sources.
Oh, that IS good news. Off you go then, don't let us keep you!
And we are still waiting for the photos that were promised months ago.
Forum rules.
1. No photos, No bragging.
2. No bragging without photos.
Which photos are refurring since I may forgot when I got busy.
Quote from: davyw1 on August 30, 2008, 07:06:43
Quote from: thegreatgardener on August 30, 2008, 04:29:09
Which photos are refurring since I may forgot when I got busy.
Re: How are your tomatoes doing!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #149 on: July 24, 2008, 17:47:38 »
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sorry all for not posting my pictures of my early set out set-up last weekend but my camera has been giving trouble I will post the pictures this weekend since I have lot on my plate till Sunday. some of are bit impatient but good things come to those who want and those who complain have no reason to since the set-up will not help this time year anyway.
I THINK THIS MAY MAY BE YOUR LAST CHANCE TO KEEP ANY CREDIBILITY YOU MAY HAVE LEFT.
So how about some photo,s of your set up and set out. We are all willing to learn and improve on our meathods, so help us get better results.
The ball is now firmly in your court
DavyW
Quote from: Jeannine on August 29, 2008, 22:43:48
PS I have Amateur seed
Hi Jeannine, where do you get them?
Not sure, I will search through the stash to see if it has a name on. XX Jeannine
Hi, they are Chiltern seeds. XX Jeannine