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Title: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: Duke Ellington on July 18, 2008, 22:25:53
I have harvested some cabbages from my brassica bed and now have a gap. I am correct in thinking that I cannot plant further brassicas in the area now vacant. If I were to plant some new brassicas would I have to plant them in a new raised bed that would fit into next years crop rotation plan?

Duke
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: STEVEB on July 18, 2008, 22:39:24
cant see the problem there probably get shot down ...but next year is next year..my only concern would be the condition of the soil!!
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: Tulipa on July 19, 2008, 07:24:20
Hi Duke,

This has come up in the past and the general feeling has been there are two schools of thought - you either rotate by not ever planting the same crop, or you rotate on an annual basis and pop some more of the same crop if it is quick ripening.

It just depends how you see your rotation plan.  If the previous crop hasn't been in there all that long I don't see why you can't put in another brassica as some of them are in for nearly a year anyway so your two crops would only take the same time.

If you add some fertiliser as well it will ensure there is enough nutrients for the new crop.

Good luck.

T.
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: kt. on July 19, 2008, 07:28:26
Quote from: Tulipa on July 19, 2008, 07:24:20
you either rotate by not ever planting the same crop, or you rotate on an annual basis and pop some more of the same crop if it is quick ripening.
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Personnaly - I go would got for the annual rotation.
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: grawrc on July 19, 2008, 09:40:19
Within one season I follow brassica with brassica but aim to clear the bed by late March/early April for the roots. So far it works for me! Fingers crossed! :o :o
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 19, 2008, 10:51:49
Same here. I'll follow onions with leeks, for instance, but then I'll grow the following year's alliums on the other side of the plot.
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: Tee Gee on July 19, 2008, 12:48:42
I'm basically with Tulipa on this one.

As I see it the ground has been prepared (presumably) for brassicas that season, and providing the first crop didn't suffer from the of the brassica diseases, I see no other reason why you cant use that same area again in the same year.

Obviously the following year your rotation system would come into play.
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: Duke Ellington on July 19, 2008, 22:14:00
Thanks all of you as always you have all been helpful :)

Duke
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: FRY on July 22, 2008, 21:54:27
what about farmers growing the same crop in the same field year on year
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: Duke Ellington on July 22, 2008, 23:07:51
Fry~~I can only guess that farmers are spraying allsorts on the crops to reduce disease and maybe thats why they can grow the same stuff in the same field.?
However I live near a big farm estate and they seem to rotate crops. I have never seen rape growing in the same fields one year to the next.

Duke
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: redimp on July 22, 2008, 23:22:59
Most of the farmers in Lincolnshire rotate and we are supposed to be most like the big monoculture farms of prairie America. 
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: growmore on July 23, 2008, 09:21:34
I can't see no problem in following early cabbage with autumn cabbage. You may need to rake in a general purpose feed prior to planting the autumn ones (BFB or Gromore).. Or sprinkle a little nitrogen feed around em when they are growing ..(sulphate of ammonia ).

Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: hopalong on July 23, 2008, 10:47:01
Quote from: growmore on July 23, 2008, 09:21:34
I can't see no problem in following early cabbage with autumn cabbage. You may need to rake in a general purpose feed prior to planting the autumn ones (BFB or Gromore).. Or sprinkle a little nitrogen feed around em when they are growing ..(sulphate of ammonia ).


If you needed to add lime for the early cabbage crop, there's no need to any more for the autumn one I suppose?  Probably a stupid question (I'm learning).
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: cleo on July 23, 2008, 22:14:03
Most of the farmers in Lincolnshire rotate and we are supposed to be most like the big monoculture farms of prairie

Well I  live in the South of the County  and here it`s  spuds spuds spuds-but I dont  like spuds, well try spud spud spud and rape not too much spud in that ;D
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: Larkshall on July 23, 2008, 23:21:08
The theory of crop rotation was worked out by Lord (Turnip) Townsend in the eighteenth century.
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: tonybloke on July 24, 2008, 00:16:15
and 'Coke of Holkham' with the norfolk 4 year rotation! ;)
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: redimp on July 24, 2008, 01:04:11
Quote from: cleo on July 23, 2008, 22:14:03
Most of the farmers in Lincolnshire rotate and we are supposed to be most like the big monoculture farms of prairie

Well I  live in the South of the County  and here it`s  spuds spuds spuds-but I dont  like spuds, well try spud spud spud and rape not too much spud in that ;D
Round our way Cleo it's - rape, spuds, grain - maybe with some field beans thrown in if you are lucky.  And those who don't know Lincs say it stinks of cabbage!!!  (Must be the rape!)
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: redimp on July 24, 2008, 01:04:42
BTW - Proper Lincs for spuds is tatties! ;D
Title: Re: Crop Rotation Question
Post by: kitty on July 24, 2008, 08:46:55
....or chips!!! ;D


dont like spuds?
dont like spuds????


whaaaat? :o
kitty
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