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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Mushy Pea on July 18, 2008, 13:29:52

Title: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: Mushy Pea on July 18, 2008, 13:29:52
Can someone please tell me the difference between these three?  I am totally confused..... ???

Thank You
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 18, 2008, 14:57:23
As far as I know, broccoli is the generic term. Calabrese and PSB are types of broccoli.
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: manicscousers on July 18, 2008, 15:02:46
the green stuff they sell as broccoli in supermarkets is calabrese  :)
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: Mushy Pea on July 18, 2008, 15:37:36
 I did wonder whether the calabrese and broccoli were the same thing. 

Thanks.

MP
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: Tee Gee on July 18, 2008, 16:14:04
An extract from my website;

QuoteCalabrese & Broccoli are actually a form of Cauliflower and as such are treated in a similar way.

Calabrese is a mild flavoured green sprouting broccoli.

The hybrid varieties produce large green heads, and after harvesting produce a second crop of smaller spears reminiscent of traditional 'sprouting broccoli'

I hope that clears it up a bit.
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: tim on July 18, 2008, 17:50:12
May I add to that, TG? Hope it doesn't confuse. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

'Sprouting broccolis, Purple or White', are huge plants. They have smallish heads with tender stems. See WSB below. PSB can be harvested from July - April, depending  upon variety.

'Broccoli' includes Winter Cauliflower, with large white heads, as with Summer Caulis. You always have too many heads at a time.

Calabrese is a compact plant, with a 5-6" first head, followed by several 3-4" ones. When you cut the first head, you want a good chunk of tasty stem, but leave the secondary buds for the follow-ons.
I fail to understand why all ads show just the florets being used. To me they are stick-in-the-throat nonsense, whereas the stems are more succulent than Asparagus. And so many people leave the heads until they are seeding. Even worse! Two stages shown below.
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: caroline7758 on July 18, 2008, 18:34:32
PSB takes much longer from sowing to harvest- don't make the mistake I made in my first year, digging up the PSB because it didn't seem to be doing anything by autumn, not realising it wouldn't be ready until the next spring! :-[
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: tim on July 18, 2008, 18:50:37
Yes, but......May planted PSB comes in in July?
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: PurpleHeather on July 18, 2008, 19:30:03
My grand daughter called broccoli
Green trees, cauliflowers were:- White trees.

Life is less confusing when you are three.
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: realfood on July 18, 2008, 19:37:21
It is confusing! Even the seed catalogues are confused!
However, I agree with Robert on this one. For me, PSB is broccoli that is usually harvested in Winter and early Spring. Calabrese is the Italian Sprouting Broccoli that is usually harvested in Autumn and early Winter. The RHS seems to use the same distinctions.
I have explained this further in this page from my website. http://www.growyourown.info/page89.html
Title: Re: Calabrese, PSB, broccoli - a bit confused
Post by: tim on July 18, 2008, 20:07:19
Not really?

Calabrese can be cut from Autumn to Spring & Summer. We are cutting last year's sowing & this year's at the same time.

PSB is now commonly cut from July to May!

Decide what you want - ask & you'll most likely get it