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Title: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: Amazin on July 06, 2008, 21:26:33
I seem to recall a thread last year about these but I can't find it - did anyone ever pin down the cause?
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: saddad on July 06, 2008, 21:35:51
It's a natural "sport" called something like Fasciation..  :)
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: manicscousers on July 06, 2008, 22:03:58
yep, got a few this year, too..mostly on the beefsteak  ;D
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: amphibian on July 06, 2008, 22:07:28
These are very common on beefsteaks, often forming a terminal to the main stem, that's why I never pinch out early sideshoots on beefsteaks, so one can take over as the main stem if a terminal forms.

If the flower sets you get a crazy catfaced tomato, often VERY large.
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 06, 2008, 23:36:03
I had several on my Black Seaman two years ago, but I haven't grown them since. A couple of the flowers were clearly cristate, and so were the resulting toms, but I didn't take pictures.
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: amphibian on July 07, 2008, 21:18:04
Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on July 06, 2008, 23:36:03
I had several on my Black Seaman two years ago, but I haven't grown them since. A couple of the flowers were clearly cristate, and so were the resulting toms, but I didn't take pictures.

Cristate fruit can be wonderfully strange, I had a cristate tomato that formed itself into a horseshoe shape.
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: manicscousers on July 08, 2008, 15:50:12
here's a wierd tomato
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: Amazin on July 08, 2008, 23:04:26
That'll make interesting slices!    ;D

And mine have all appeared on beefsteak varieties: Amish Paste, Marmande and Great White.

I've never had it on toms before but three years ago I had something very much like it on every single giant sunflower - the centres were cupped  right round, almost touching at the back, and many had two flowerheads fused together. No other effect on the growth at all.  ???
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: Amazin on July 08, 2008, 23:20:12
Just Googled around for more info. It seems the reason is usually an injury during the early stages of growth, caused by frost, slugs or a pruning injury. (viruses may also be a cause).

Don't think mine is due to virus as I reckon other varieties and/or species would be showing signs by now.
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: manicscousers on July 09, 2008, 07:45:57
don't think this can be a virus, either. The rest of the toms on this plant and all of the others are fine, just this one is weird, but you have to have one  ;D
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: isbister on July 09, 2008, 08:17:27
Me too - had several on Marmande which are interplanted with Ferline which were all normal
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 09, 2008, 18:00:57
I don't think it's a virus, and people have jabed plants with nedles and all sorts to try to induce fasciation. Nobody has ever succeeded. The best we can say is, nobody knows why it happens.
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: tonybloke on July 09, 2008, 19:28:35
I've got a few of those flowers, all on 'Marmande', it's my 1st year with these, I thought it was a trait of the variety? But, Bl**dy Huge fruit!!
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: Hyacinth on July 09, 2008, 19:48:18
I've noticed that 3 Marmande & one from another beefsteak variety have these.. Never happened before, so was pleased to see this thread.
Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: amphibian on July 09, 2008, 22:07:24
I swear we have this discussion every year.

Anyone else get cristate flowers on aubergines?

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Title: Re: Unusual tomato flower
Post by: thegreatgardener on July 10, 2008, 03:49:21
nothing special just king flower they are very common on the larger varieties.
Unless you never seen one before, if treated properly you can get very large tomatoes from them.