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Title: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: JimmyJames on June 16, 2008, 11:23:21
I inherited a messy patch of raspberries that seemed to have run wild.  They were in the way of a bed I had planned, so I dug them up (with great difficulty) and selected 20 canes to move to a new spot.  This was in Feb I think.
The old guy on the plot next to me told me that they were Autumn fruiting, so I searched on here and found that they needed to be pruned down hard as the fruit sets on new growth.

They have all grown really well and are looking healthy, but not one of the plants has any fruit on it.

Is it likely that I was mis-informed, and they are in fact summer fruiters?

I guess I will find out next year if I leave this years growth on them...

If they did turn out to be Autumn ones, should I expect to see some fruit on them by now?
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: Fork on June 16, 2008, 11:25:10
Too early for your autumn rasberries just yet.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: djbrenton on June 16, 2008, 11:36:08
Mrs DJB got confused this year and cut all the summer raspberries down whilst leaving the autumn ones!!!
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: JimmyJames on June 16, 2008, 11:43:23
Hehe,  that sounds like the kind of thing I would do!

Sounds like im being impatient then.  I will wait until later in the year to see if any fruits appear.  If they dont I will avoid any pruning, but if they do I will know they are in fact Autumn ones.

Thanks
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: asbean on June 16, 2008, 11:47:29
We're starting to pick our summer ones now, the autumn ones are rampant, but no signs of fruit yet. Will be another month or so before we get those., then they'll keep going till November.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: djbrenton on June 16, 2008, 11:58:38
You can leave them unpruned and get raspberries whichever type they are. With autumn fruiting, it's the tip that dies back and fruit is still produced lower down the stem. If they fruit all the way up, treat as summer, if they only fruit part way then treat as autumn in future.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: antipodes on June 16, 2008, 13:00:02
I have Heritage, which are kind of in between! They fruit at the end of the summer. I have flowers and very tiny hard fruit starting to form, BUT here I am a few weeks ahead of our UK friends. So I think it is very likely that they don't have fruit on them
Yes, agree with djbrenton - mine tend to get fruit near the top of the bush, but not at the bottom.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: ceres on June 16, 2008, 13:07:50
My Autumn Bliss have just started fruiting.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: electric landlady on June 16, 2008, 17:59:28
no fruit on my autumn ones yet, they are still growing and are only about 3 foot high. Last year they didn't get any fruit till about September, but then they had tons. Yum.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: Suzanne on June 16, 2008, 18:08:39
Same here - no fruit and I don't really expect them too yet. Mine also are inherited autumn fruiters which have gone wild. The guys on the allotments told me which type and how to prune them and I had tons of raspberries last year - right to mid November. We are also still eating the jam.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: OllieC on June 16, 2008, 18:31:23
Bliss or Joan J should be starting to flower on this years early wood now, or in the next week or two in colder parts. But moving them always upsets them a bit for the first year...
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: Sinbad7 on June 16, 2008, 18:53:38
Not a hint of a flower on my autumn raspberries but thought it was too early anyway for them.  My plants are running amok after hacking them down to ground level.

Sinbad
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 17, 2008, 11:00:48
Wait and see. If they fruit, well and good. I had a patch of wild raspberries which had a virus, and produced next to nothing. Hopefully yours will be fine, but be aware of the possibility.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: JimmyJames on June 17, 2008, 17:16:50
I will wait until a few more weeks have passed and see if anything happens.
Will also consider Virus damage or them being upset by the move...

Thanks for the info everyone
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: artichoke on June 17, 2008, 21:58:42
I have also inherited a row of neglected raspberries. I have been watching them for a couple of years before applying for the allotment they are on (no-one ever appeared over that time) and I suspect they are autumn raspberries.

Because they were never pruned, they are in flower and fruit at the moment, and delicious. But in the winter I mean to cut them down to the ground, weed and feed them, and return them to their autumn status.

No suspicion of virus, touch wood....they are very productive and tasty. They have very tall, partly collapsing, woody fruiting stems, with a lot of fresh, non-flowering (as yet) stems pushing up among them ready for the autumn.

They look just like my autumn raspberries on another allotment, apart from the woody tall fruiting stems.
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: theothermarg on June 17, 2008, 22:15:52
why, scratching head puzzled would autumn rasberries be fruiting now cuz the summer ones are fruiting at the moment
mine is a mixed bed and yes the autumn ones are 3' tall and all green
marg
Title: Re: Autumn Raspberries. Should they have fruit by now?
Post by: OllieC on June 17, 2008, 22:19:31
Autumn ones aren't Autumn - it's just how they're used commercially (pruning involves a lawnmower!). You can use them to get a near full season (June to first frosts) if you do it right...