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Title: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: glosterwomble on June 10, 2008, 23:32:37
I have planted a variety of tom called Lilliput (determinate variety from seeds of Italy) into a hanging basket. They have now reached a point where I would have thought they should be tumbling by now but they look amazingly upright.

Has anyone else found this? I suspect that eventually they will 'fall' over.
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: betula on June 10, 2008, 23:36:14
Yes I have twenty three of these,Tumbling Tom,they will go over,some take longer than others :) :)
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: glosterwomble on June 10, 2008, 23:44:32
thanks Betula I thought that was the case but then I had this awful image of a 6 foot tall tom just continuing to grow straight up from my hanging basket!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: davyw1 on June 11, 2008, 07:55:32
Quote from: glosterwomble on June 10, 2008, 23:32:37
I have planted a variety of tom called Lilliput (determinate variety from seeds of Italy) into a hanging basket. They have now reached a point where I would have thought they should be tumbling by now but they look amazingly upright.

Has anyone else found this? I suspect that eventually they will 'fall' over.

Lilliput is not a tumbling Tomato, it is a bush ( Determinate ) and can grow to to 4 or 5 feet. it is more suitable to a container and usually needs to be supported.
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: glosterwomble on June 11, 2008, 08:19:23
Quote from: davyw1 on June 11, 2008, 07:55:32
Lilliput is not a tumbling Tomato....

Ok, maybe a change of plan needed here then! Looks like they'll have to come out of the hanging basket.  :-\
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 11, 2008, 08:42:59
They'll still flop over, but if the plant's that big, then the root system will be too large for a hanging basket.
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: glosterwomble on June 11, 2008, 12:20:49
If a bush tomato is called a determinate and the cordon style tom is called indeterminate then what is a tumbling tom, does it have a category??
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: Hyacinth on June 11, 2008, 16:08:20
Please....can everyone answer womble's q - then consider mine, also bout a 'tumbling' tom?

Just back from work & client had bought 4 'tumblers' + 2 ghastly pochette-type thingies  to take 2 plants each, off the Shopping Channel...

These I bunged in for her........a couple look really sad and droopy,once planted,but really sad and droopy'???

Thought.....have I planted them upside-down? ;D ;D Will they right themselves or must I replant right-way-up?

To give you a mental picture.....the ones I consider to be 'right-way up', droop a bit, then turn upwards in optimistic fashion......is this what 'tumblers' do?
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: calendula on June 11, 2008, 16:19:50
I think the tumblers are in the bush category as this would be their nature if planted in the ground, bush out that is

same with yours Alishka, they just extend themselves in a bushy way until they tumble over whatever container they are in - if they were in the ground they would just go, guess what, bushy  ;D
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: davyw1 on June 11, 2008, 18:32:08
Quote from: glosterwomble on June 11, 2008, 12:20:49
If a bush tomato is called a determinate and the cordon style tom is called indeterminate then what is a tumbling tom, does it have a category??

Yes it a Dwarf Bush Tomato
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: glosterwomble on June 11, 2008, 20:02:14
Thanks for the replies. I have yanked them out tonight and put them into a bed instead.
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: flowerlady on July 02, 2008, 14:28:31
Quote from: davyw1 on June 11, 2008, 07:55:32
Quote from: glosterwomble on June 10, 2008, 23:32:37
I have planted a variety of tom called Lilliput (determinate variety from seeds of Italy) into a hanging basket. They have now reached a point where I would have thought they should be tumbling by now but they look amazingly upright.

Has anyone else found this? I suspect that eventually they will 'fall' over.

Lilliput is not a tumbling Tomato, it is a bush ( Determinate ) and can grow to to 4 or 5 feet. it is more suitable to a container and usually needs to be supported.

Oh I'm so glad you guys have said this :D  ...    I am experiencing exactly the same thing!!  ;)  Do you think the seed swap is responsible !!!!!!!!!  ;D

I was about the pinch out the top of the plant but think instead I will pot it on into a very large container and go for a 4ft bush !!  8)
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: glosterwomble on July 02, 2008, 18:57:09
Quote from: flowerlady on July 02, 2008, 14:28:31
Oh I'm so glad you guys have said this :D  ...    I am experiencing exactly the same thing!!  ;)  Do you think the seed swap is responsible !!!!!!!!!  ;D

I was about the pinch out the top of the plant but think instead I will pot it on into a very large container and go for a 4ft bush !!  8)

I don't think it's the fault of the seed swap, if you look at Franchi's description they say (and I quote) "...good for growing in containers and baskets too."

Maybe they mean big baskets and not hanging basket??  ::)
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: saddad on July 02, 2008, 19:01:34
Our whippersnapper are looking good in the baskets now...  ;D
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: jordsbabe on July 02, 2008, 19:01:50
My tomatoes are called millions, is this plant a tumbler, it seems to be growing very tall, i have two in a 12" tub at the moment do you think they need more space, I can't find the packet! lol! :o
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: saddad on July 02, 2008, 19:03:27
Not Sweet Million?
Not a tumbler but a indeterminate with long trusses I think.....  :-\
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: glosterwomble on July 02, 2008, 19:36:15
Quote from: saddad on July 02, 2008, 19:01:34
Our whippersnapper are looking good in the baskets now...  ;D

Not heard of those saddad, have you grown them before?
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: saddad on July 02, 2008, 19:52:37
Heritage. Think T+M used to sell them in the 70's... now off the list so from HSL. Grew about twenty for the sale and they were snapped up ( No Pun Intended!)
Small plants, pinkish fruit..  ;D
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: davyw1 on July 02, 2008, 19:53:20
Quote from: saddad on July 02, 2008, 19:03:27
Not Sweet Million?
Not a tumbler but a indeterminate with long trusses I think.....  :-\
Big trusses with cherry tomato,s hence the name sweet million
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: glosterwomble on July 02, 2008, 21:15:22
Quote from: saddad on July 02, 2008, 19:52:37
Heritage. Think T+M used to sell them in the 70's... now off the list so from HSL. Grew about twenty for the sale and they were snapped up ( No Pun Intended!)
Small plants, pinkish fruit..  ;D

I think I might ask you nicely if you'd like to swap seeds with me for something later on!!  ::)  ;D

I fancy the idea of those.
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: jordsbabe on July 02, 2008, 21:18:58
Quote from: davyw1 on July 02, 2008, 19:53:20
Quote from: saddad on July 02, 2008, 19:03:27
Not Sweet Million?
Not a tumbler but a indeterminate with long trusses I think.....  :-\
Big trusses with cherry tomato,s hence the name sweet million

Sorry to trouble you again, do I need to take off side shoots and how big do you think they will grow?
Title: Re: Tumbling Tomatoes NOT Tumbling!
Post by: davyw1 on July 02, 2008, 21:51:31
Presuming that they are sweet million then you nip of the suckers. They will grow till you nip out the growing tip.
They are a F1 so you cant save the seed for them to come true next year.