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Title: New Potatoes
Post by: tim on June 08, 2008, 20:27:08
The only ones, really, worth growing? But don't wait until they are bakers - happens so quickly.

Rather than firkle or fumble this year, I've lifted the whole thing & replanted if unacceptable.

Can't expect a barrowful at 66 days but, as mentioned earlier, the very first ones really are a treat. Sceptre & Red Duke of York were only just worth the effort, but Pentland Javelin was one to watch. Mostly marble size, with one or two up to 2", there were 20 tubers per plant. That's something for a first early?
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Gazfoz on June 08, 2008, 20:34:42
I lifted two Arran Pilots this evening and got just over a kilo of spuds ranging from marble size to bigger than a hens egg. some of the larger ones had split, steamed them all up for dinner served with some steak off the bbq, they were superb, creamy and sweet.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: tim on June 08, 2008, 20:37:03
How many days?
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Gazfoz on June 08, 2008, 20:45:37
I didn't keep an exact record of the planting date Tim but I did put them in fairly early, before the last couple of frosts. They were well up, in fact falling over despite being earthed up when they first showed and had been in flower for well over a week.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: jo9919 on June 08, 2008, 20:57:00
It was my first year last year growing potatoes (in containers). I chose Pentland Javelin, just because they were provided at the local garden centre in small quantaties.

I planted three seed potatoes in a large container and lifted them after 51 days. I got 50+ spuds, only a few marble sized, the majority were slightly smaller than an egg, and a few egg sized.

They were delicious with butter and mint, but I think growing for the first time, anything would have been welcome  :)

I've chosen Pentland Javelin again this year, but I've got lots of containers going this time, I can't get enough of them  ;D

Jo.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Emagggie on June 08, 2008, 21:33:50
I have limited space so I just grow 1st and 2nd earlies.I chose Orla and Charlotte this time. Wont bother with Orla again, as yet not had many, but what we did have were pretty tasteless. Shame, as we were looking forward to them :(
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: grawrc on June 08, 2008, 21:47:04
dug up lots of volunteers this evening and eating them tonight. Delicious! First earlies are almost ready - planted 21st April.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Mothy on June 08, 2008, 21:59:13
Pentland Javelin & Sharpes' Express now been in 70 days, how long do you reckon they should have before being eating size Tim? Must have a look next weekend.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: manicscousers on June 09, 2008, 06:51:37
the vales emerald, some of us got these for 1.99 p&p, are ready for eating on our plot, just had a meal from them, well, you have to try..but , we're still eating the rocket though  ;D
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: grawrc on June 09, 2008, 07:05:15
I lie - I planted them on 5th April.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: GrannieAnnie on June 09, 2008, 10:10:24
Is the rule of thumb to wait until they flower to harvest the early ones???
I'm trying some in two tubs for the first time- red ones that sprouted, bought originally to eat, not seed potatoes. Haven't seen any flowers yet.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: tim on June 09, 2008, 10:48:31
Some great results there? I am NOT a potato expert. But:

1. 'They' say that you can sample New Potatoes a week after they flower. I take that as 'in full flower'.

2. Others' say 13 weeks for earlies. But. as we've seen, as little as 56 days can produce a meal?

3. If you have plenty of plants, I think it's worth a look early. The first ones are such a delight. As I say, replant & water in immediately if too early.

4. Emerald are way behind our 1st Earlies. But then they are not 'earlies', but 'salad potatoes'.

5. Eating size? Gourmet or profitable??

Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: ceres on June 09, 2008, 11:02:14
The RHS reckons 13 weeks for earlies.  Lifting one plant per person for a handful of marbles seems a bit extravagant to me, but each to their own I suppose!
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: tim on June 09, 2008, 11:17:27
Yes - but SO nice. And, as said, you CAN replant the plant!!
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Barnowl on June 09, 2008, 11:50:12
Quote from: Emagggie on June 08, 2008, 21:33:50
I have limited space so I just grow 1st and 2nd earlies.I chose Orla and Charlotte this time. Wont bother with Orla again, as yet not had many, but what we did have were pretty tasteless. Shame, as we were looking forward to them :(

I've read somewhere that Charlotte benefit from being stored for a few weeks after harvesting. As I'm near to harvesting some, can anyone vouch for this?
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: calendula on June 09, 2008, 11:55:18
Quote from: GrannieAnnie on June 09, 2008, 10:10:24
Is the rule of thumb to wait until they flower to harvest the early ones???


so many spuds do not flower so it is best to go by time 12 weeks is usually the minimum but you can try earlier if you can accept much smaller ones as you will obviously be leaving the rest in the ground to harvest as and when you want them so as time goes by they will get bigger
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: syrahsuzie on June 09, 2008, 14:42:42
First time growing potatoes.  Had a lot of help and advice from 89 year old neighbour.

I posted on here about storm damage to the flower stem a couple of weeks ago.

Lifted 2 plants yesterday and got about 20 egg-size potatoes - delicious for supper with our first mangetout and some of our strawbs for afters.

They were a french variety - Belle de Fontenay - planted on 4th April, so 65 days.  The packet said 110 days.  Glad I had a look.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: calendula on June 09, 2008, 14:51:44
I did BdF last year - fabulous flavour

basically potatoes are ready when they are ready  :)
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: tim on June 09, 2008, 17:32:37
Another success story!!  Just goes to show that guide lines are guide lines?

But let us not forget your location!

And although a said 'marbles' for Javelin, remember Sceptre some days ago?
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: ruud on June 09, 2008, 18:02:26
90 days the old chaps here say 90 days. ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Gazfoz on June 09, 2008, 18:10:10
It is easy to lose sight of the fact that the earlies are there to use early and enjoy small and skinless and sweet and delicate and delectable.
It seems to me pointless to wait until they resemble an asteroid before consuming.
Pull em up and enjoy ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: sunner on June 10, 2008, 07:22:48
mine sure do have a lot of flowers, think it might be time to start using some of them ? ? ?


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Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 10, 2008, 07:46:11
Have a firtle and see.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: AB South on June 10, 2008, 08:33:17
Hello - this is my first time in this forum and the first time I have attempted to grow my own. I have a very small vege patch and have therefore chosen to grown my pots in bags.

I planted my first earlies in early March and seconds about a month later...problem is they have growen very tall and seem to be falling over and the leaves seem to be vanishing before my eyes. I pulled up one plant yesterday (from firsts) and got 4 marble sized potatoes (which were delicious albiet hardly a meal) - my firsts are not flowering but my seconds are...?

Could you possibly give me some idea as to what to do - I am awfully excited about my pots but don't want to take up too early.

Many thanks


Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: manicscousers on June 10, 2008, 09:03:17
hiya, AB south, welcome to the site  ;D
as Robert says, have a gentle feel around the roots, jst re-cover if they're too small  :)
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: AB South on June 10, 2008, 09:36:17
Thanks! had a feel around and there were some bigger ones on there so have taken some up. At the same time found some rather huge slugs with orange colour around the outside....any clues? Also found some rotten pots and the carlottes have gone a funny brown colour with speckled skin - they are a little soft.

Not sure if the first try was too successful however have about 4 dinners worth...always next time!

When is the latest time to plant main crop?

Thanks for yout help...
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Oldhippy on June 10, 2008, 09:42:31
To Sunner -  that`s just what mine look like at the mo - can`t remember what variety they were though! Let us know how you get on will you?
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: moonbells on June 10, 2008, 09:54:20
Mine are just at 8 weeks now but are seconds (didn't get any firsts this year as I find I eat more salads in July/Aug than June!) so have about 6 more weeks to go. Ho hum!

moonbells
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: adeymoo on June 10, 2008, 13:17:07
Looking forward to my earlies but I am enquiring about 'guide lines' for lifting second earlies, early main and late main. Thompson & Morgan note 13 weeks, 15 weeks, 20 weeks but websites suggest upto 16, 24, and 30 weeks. Firkle I could but I planted them deep to save earthing up and I imagine I won't be able to push my hand in that deep.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: ceres on June 10, 2008, 13:28:11
As you've found, it's not an exact science so you won't know unless you have a look.  When to start looking?  Well, if you want a handful of marbles as per Tim, go for it at 8 weeks.  I'd have a first look around 10-11 weeks.  If they're very deep you may have to dig but you could try scraping the soil away with your hands first rather than sticking your hand in up to the elbow!
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: cornykev on June 10, 2008, 16:49:47
Planted 12th feb, dug up four plants Saturday, enough for three meals for the two of us, put two plants back in.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: sunner on June 10, 2008, 18:04:56
Quote from: Oldhippy on June 10, 2008, 09:42:31
To Sunner -  that`s just what mine look like at the mo - can`t remember what variety they were though! Let us know how you get on will you?

mine are Charlotte`s planted them at easter , just dug 4 plants up and got 4 and a half pound of studs .
was shocked at the size of them put a 2p there so you can see the size , big as fist some of them have had a lot of rain in southampton few weeks ago dont know if that had anyting to do with it ?


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Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: jo9919 on June 11, 2008, 12:10:45
These are Pentland Javelin from last year, grown in containers from three seed potatoes and lifted after 51 days.

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk277/joanne9919/DSCF0167.jpg)

Joanne.
Title: Re: New Potatoes
Post by: Oldhippy on June 11, 2008, 17:02:18
 Thanks Sunner - so mine are Charlottes are they? Oh good, I like them! :)
Looks as though it might be worth digging up a plant or two!