hey guys!
Just wondering id tom food is suitable for any other plants? especially peppers?
Thanks a million!
p.s. how rubbish is the weather >:(
haha i'm off to a great start with spelling if notheing else, tomatoe indeed
Once the fruit has set, tomato food is perfect for peppers.
I use comfrey tea
any fruiting plant ;D
Learned years ago that the tomato food is more complete than any other plant food and I use it for everything.
So many people use tomato feed it is cheap. Lots of people use a variety of plant foods for other things so they put up the prices.
To keep the cleaver sods off yer back, (they have nothing to yeild but being smartarses and no one likes a smartarse)
Tomato)
Singlular
Potato)
++++++++++++++++
Tomatoes)
Plural
Potatoes)
Just remember the E is for extra.
1. Agree - smart-arse (British, very informal, American, very informal)
someone who is always trying to seem more clever than everyone else in a way that is annoying.
2. Disagree - I do not see Tom fertiliser as cheaper or more complete.
a. Rose - £3,09kg/Q4 General - £3.65kg/ Potato £3.00kg/Growmore £4.99kg/Tomorite £3.99kg.
b. Need to know - in what way is Tom fertiliser 'more complete'?
I see you buy the dry stuff Tim. I get the liquid.
Diluted it I find it is easier to make sure what plant gets what.
My answer to your question is in the list of content.
It was pointed out to me some years ago by a representatives of manufacturers of these products. By people had worked for a few big companies between them, over the years.
Since then I have met others 'in the trade' who have confirmed what I was originally told.
I will say that if one actually has a farm and buys the necessary in huge quantities wholesale to do the job for the product one is actually growing a better cocktail can be obtained viably.
My response was to give general advice to domestic growers so that they could get the best value for money from retail products without them causing detrimental effect to their results.
These people would not come here asking questions, if, like yourself, they have both knowledge and experience.
Most DIY gardeners want one product to feed plants, one to kill bugs, and one anti fungicde.
And when they ask a perfectly relevent question, probably worried that they might look stupid because of their lack of knowledge. The last thing they need is to be picked up because they have made a simple spelling mistake.
Every credit and encouragement should be extended to anyone wanting to get into the basics of growing and cooking of proper food.
Two generations have been brought up in a throwaway, ready made meal, society. Parents, even grandparents can not instruct their children or grand children because they were not taught.
There should not be a stigma attached to asking a question nor to offering a simple answer.
Those who have any knowledge have two options. Share it or keep it secret.
I choose to share. If you know better.
Great.
Share it.
Please.
I buy JA Bowers tomato food from poundland.
Janet.
Forgot to say I use the liquid. Also I use it for all my flowering house plants including orchids. They all thrive.
Janet.
I absolutely agree PH, no one likes a smartarse. To lecture on singular and plural is insulting at best and rude at worst.
Tim is a well respected member of this forum who is far too much a gentleman to take you to task for your previous comments. I am no gentlewoman and have no hesitation in suggesting that you couch your remarks in friendlier terms or just don't bother.
>:(
Oh Katy
I do bother.
Because I care.
You use a tomato feed on plants that you want to flower and poduce fruit. This is a high potash fertiliser.
You use a high nitrogen fertiliser on brassicas, etc where you want green leaf, etc .
You use a high potash fertiliser (K) for root crops.
Then you have the 'balanced' fertilisers which contain the above in roughly equal quantities.
valmarg
Ooo, made a bit of an Ed there.
'You use a high potash fertiliser (K) for root crops'
I think I should have said potassium.
??? :-[
valmarg
Tomato food certainly ain't cheap (I only use Fison's or Levingtons) nor is it meant as a general purpose fertilizer.
It's a fertilizer made to do a job . Its fine for fruit and flowers ..
::)
Nope PH, you clearly don't care or you would not repeatedly post in such a dismissive and unpleasant manner.
:-X
Ok PH if we being PC. If (e) in tomato is plural? ..Whats the a for in clever.
Or did this Yorkie read it wrong ? ???
PH, Don,t know where you learned that tomato feed is a more complete feed than any other feed of 5-5-5
Tomato feed is balanced for tomato,s with the onus being on potassium but its short on Nitrogen and Phosphates. No doubt its fine on other veg like lettuce where it not in the ground long enough really to bother about. Try it on your onions and see the results.
As some one posted " my cauliflowers grow well until i get a small curd and that's as far as they go, i don't understand it i give them plenty of tomato feed "
Wonder who,s info that person read.
Quote from: valmarg on June 03, 2008, 21:42:35
You use a tomato feed on plants that you want to flower and poduce fruit. This is a high potash fertiliser.
You use a high nitrogen fertiliser on brassicas, etc where you want green leaf, etc .
You use a high potash fertiliser (K) for root crops.
Then you have the 'balanced' fertilisers which contain the above in roughly equal quantities.
valmarg
This is my first yr growing Brussel Sprouts. Are the sprouts considered more leaves or the "fruits". It sort of looks like a fruit but it is made up of leaves... ??? ::) So is it high N fertilizer then?
QuoteIt was pointed out to me some years ago by a representatives of manufacturers of these products. By people had worked for a few big companies between them, over the years.
You mean sales people, don't you? Ah, that explains a lot.
I use a high-potash feed to encourage fruit production. I've had many fine tomatii from my well fed tomatum plants - also good on pepperren, cucumbae and meleen.
;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D @ Amazin!
Guys we should be fighting pests and diseases not each other.
It is very easy to misconstrue intentions behind a post on the 'net as it is the written word without the benefit of seeing the persons face.
1/2 of all communication is by looking and judging the persons expression whilst they are talking.
I enjoy Heathers posts and while I do disagree with her about tom food there is no harm in cutting her some slack.
It is what Heather believes about the tom food and has found to be effective FOR HER so she isnt deliberatly misleading or lieing to anyone.
Play nice guys ::)
QuoteIt is very easy to misconstrue intentions behind a post on the 'net as it is the written word without the benefit of seeing the persons face.
Pricisely, Ishard. That's why we have the emoticons, which you and I have both used in our posts. Perhaps you misconstrued mine?
Quote from: valmarg on June 03, 2008, 21:50:27
Ooo, made a bit of an Ed there.
'You use a high potash fertiliser (K) for root crops'
I think I should have said potassium.
??? :-[
valmarg Aren't potassium and potash roughly the same, one derived from the other?
Potash is a compound of potassium. I'm not sure what the other bits in it are (carbon and sulphur?) but I think it is usually responsible for the potassium (K) part of of your fertiliser. Wood ash contains it.
Just googled: potash = Potassium Hydroxide so the other bits are Hydrogen and oxygen - not C&S :-[
PS Who are these cleaver sods? Do they carry large knives? Should we be very afraid that they might make us spell 'yield' correctly?
Thanks to every one for the most amusing thread I've seen for ages!
Thanks for trying to sort me out, Heather, but I'm still up th creek without a paddle.
I still can't fathom the 'more completeness' of Tom food.
We know that some brands have added Trace Elements, some have Seaweed Extract, some are Fish based, some highlight Magnesium, but apart from that, surely, you've just got your NPK in suitable proportions for the job in hand??
PS This was a 'quick question' I recall?
PPS Yes - except for this year,when I needed a change, I have always used a soluble Vitax ('professional') fertiliser which is run through an Access dilutor at every watering.
I'm with Tim: even if a feed has extra bits and pieces surely it's not advantageous to feed e.g. a plant that likes more nitrogen with a feed that contains more potassium
PPS
Quote from: PurpleHeather on June 03, 2008, 20:26:57
..............The last thing they need is to be picked up because they have made a simple spelling mistake. .................
PH I think it should be mentioned that it was
you who picked up on the spelling mistake. In general on this forum I've noticed we are not a bunch of pedants and usually spelling mistakes are only mentioned when either they might lead to a misunderstanding or they are fun. Actually, I think that many are due to typos rather than an inability to spell properly.
People don't even mention it when someone confuses effect and affect NOT THAT I MIND OH NO I'M QUITE RELAXED ABOUT IT, GIBBER, SNARL....
.....no accounting for what might irk one is there? :)
i agree this spelling thing is allways a problem my keyboard is wireless and if the batteries are going becomes a big problem as I'm not a typest and look at the keys when typing
I'm leaving the chemistry to yous'all....me, I buy Poundland stuff and that's the end of it :-[
To the issue of spelling, punctuation and grammar...such a pity that it has arisen, and this I deplore. :( It is enough, surely, that the meaning is understood and that we all respond to that.
To the rest - Barnowl..I'm quite relaxed about aberrant apostrophes....REALLY I AM ;D ;D ;D
I would never think of pulling anyone up over their spelling. I might have a bit of a smile to myself sometimes, but the object of the exercise on here is communication.
As barnowl says most of them are typos. And I should know, I used to be a shorthand/trypist. ;D
valmarg
Thanks for a fab thread and reminding me there are a lot of really nice people out there ( going through a bad patch) lifted my spirits no end! ;)
Quote from: Alishka_Maxwell on June 04, 2008, 18:05:53
I'm leaving the chemistry to yous'all....me, I buy Poundland stuff and that's the end of it :-[
To the rest - Barnowl..I'm quite relaxed about aberrant apostrophes....REALLY I AM ;D ;D ;D
thats' good to know :)
hey guys! thanks for all your posts! i am now a master of tomato feed and its all down to you! hehe i thought this would be a one post repy! :-\