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Title: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: gonz on May 27, 2008, 14:42:53
I started off some peas at home and planted them out on the lottie when they were about 4" tall.
They have nearly all died? 

Also, my dwarf green beans are looking pretty sick, although a few of them seem to have new shoots in the middle above the stem, a lot have just flopped over and died! 

Any ideas what I am doing wrong?????

I have never grown either of these before.  Any help would be appreciated.

Ta.

Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: PurpleHeather on May 27, 2008, 14:47:26
Are you watering them?
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: gonz on May 27, 2008, 14:50:45
yes i have been watering them every other day.  Is that right? 
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: daileg on May 27, 2008, 15:03:13
would tend to think it might be the weather we have had of late wid could be a contender how is your soil for manure if you havent any add some chicken manure ,growmore or blood fish and bone its hard to say without much information .

the peas dont like there roots bothered i tend to grow in the ground but i dont tend to have a problem with mice so its ok

i also lost my first crop of beans to the cold weather need protecting from the wind till they managed to wind them selves around the poles and we also have had a cold snap of late .
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: Fork on May 27, 2008, 15:06:05
Not too late to get some more peas set but I would put them straight in the ground.

I put some more dwarf beans in about 6 days ago and they are pushing the soil up in their individual pots already.So I wuld put some more of those in too If I were you.
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: gonz on May 27, 2008, 15:07:46
I have put some organic growmore in when i planted them.  We have only had our plot since February this year.  I dont think anything has been grown on it for a couple of years so I'm not too sure when it was last manured.  

I wanted to put them directly into the ground but was told not to as there are mice around which dig them up.  Do you think I should start some off in the peat pots that rot down naturally, so i dont damage the roots?

I have started some more beans off at home again.  2nd time lucky!   :)
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: PurpleHeather on May 27, 2008, 15:13:59
Yes they should get watered when first planted, or if it has been dry for a while. Not saturated, though.

It is hard to be certain without knowing more, if you have not broken off the roots when transplanting then

The usual reasons for failures like this are

not enough of something
too much of something.

It could be that it is too cold where you are.  Peas are pretty hardy though.

Have you grown on this soil before? It may be too rich with fresh manure.
Beans will tolerate fresher manure than most plants.

Is anything else growing on the same land?









Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: gonz on May 27, 2008, 15:16:38
I have got some sweet peas growing inbetween the peas and the beans.  They seem fine.
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: PurpleHeather on May 27, 2008, 15:30:51
Then it could be the roots were damaged with transplanting
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: manicscousers on May 27, 2008, 16:33:11
could it be they weren't hardened off ?
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: davyw1 on May 27, 2008, 19:00:10
If you put the Organic manure in the ground the same time as you planted the peas then then it may have burnt the roots
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: growmore on May 28, 2008, 09:38:16
I am with Davyw1 on this. The organic manure you buy in the bags is good stuff. But  very concentrated . It needs using sparingly and is best raked in a few days before planting ...
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: gonz on May 28, 2008, 09:51:43
Thanks growmore and davyw1, i think that is probably the cause!  I will use it as you have suggested in future.

Thanks again.   :)
Title: Re: Poorly Peas & Beans!
Post by: silly billy on May 28, 2008, 09:53:42
I think manicscousers has hit the nail on the head. Our lottie neighbour planted their beans out without hardening them off and many have died and the remainder are struggling.