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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Eristic on May 17, 2008, 01:40:50

Title: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on May 17, 2008, 01:40:50
Who knows what this is?

(http://downtheplot.com/images/quinoa_may.jpg)
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: littlebabybird on May 17, 2008, 01:47:50
is it a quinoa plant?
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on May 17, 2008, 02:13:45
Looks like a weed   ???very healthy though  ;D
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Tyke on May 17, 2008, 06:04:05
I have a few bird feeders in my garden that i fill with a seed and nut mix. The blackbirds like to bash them so that the seeds fall on the floor. Some seeds have sprouted on the nearby beds. This looks a little like one of the common plants that have sprouted from this mixture - not sure if this helps.

Did you grow it or buy it?
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: jeanaustin on May 17, 2008, 06:12:12
It looks like Chenopodium album (also known as 'fat hen') but it could be one of the Orache family, which is an edible plant (as also is fat hen) and is of the same family.
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on May 17, 2008, 06:50:47
it does look like fat hen. You could just turn it round by 90 oC and then read the label
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Tyke on May 17, 2008, 07:44:47
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenopodium_album

If it is Fat hen, then the seeds are used to feed poultry - which ties in nicely with my feeling that they look like the product of bird feed debris....
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: littlebabybird on May 17, 2008, 14:29:41
well if it is the plant that Eristic has grown in the carefully labled pot i would still go with the Quinoa

thats what my plants look like, well in a few weeks lol

lbb
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on May 17, 2008, 22:06:16
Well done Littlebabybird. Hopfully it is quinoa which makes me wonder if this latest superfood is nothing more than a bunch of weeds each and every one of us meticulously removes from our cultivations.
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: littlebabybird on May 17, 2008, 22:13:18
Quote from: Eristic on May 17, 2008, 22:06:16
Well done Littlebabybird. Hopfully it is quinoa which makes me wonder if this latest superfood is nothing more than a bunch of weeds each and every one of us meticulously removes from our cultivations.

which one have you got?
mine is rainbow from real seeds
gl
lbb
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on May 17, 2008, 22:26:09
That is the same one that I am growing. As space is at a premium I'm only growing a few plants to check for merits, survivability, yield etc. If they do well and I like them, greater space will be allocated next year.

I'm keeping one quinoa plant and a fat hen in the polytunnel for comparison and just 8 outside. I may sow more later but I still have no idea where to put all my squashes.
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: littlebabybird on May 17, 2008, 22:33:19
i have 10 plants on the go, i was going to do less but i thought i might not get all the colours then

and yes we have kept a fat hen plant as well lol

would it be ok to compare notes later?

lbb
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on May 18, 2008, 22:28:40
Comparing results is what it is all about but first we have to get some sunshine.
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: valmarg on May 18, 2008, 22:39:25
Looks a lot like 'fat hen's' relative chaenopodium bonus henricum, aka Good King Henry.

Its stems can be earthed up and used as asparagus, the leaves can be used as spinach.

The way it seeds down could account for the quinny stuff.

valmarg
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: jeanaustin on May 20, 2008, 06:51:33
'Quinoa' is a member of the Chenopodium family
Wonder if it will self seed like our English Chenopodium (Fat Hen)?
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: littlebabybird on May 20, 2008, 08:01:45
Quote from: jeanaustin on May 20, 2008, 06:51:33
'Quinoa' is a member of the Chenopodium family
Wonder if it will self seed like our English Chenopodium (Fat Hen)?

of course it wont self seed i want it to grow, only weeds grow
lbb
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on July 25, 2008, 00:03:51
Update of progress:

(http://downtheplot.com/images/quinoa_july.jpg)

Plants seem to withstand the ravishes of slugs and stand up to the wind fairly well. Only a couple at the exposed end of the row fell over. Just waiting now for heads to ripen.
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: valmarg on July 25, 2008, 13:53:33
Quote from: jeanaustin on May 20, 2008, 06:51:33
'Quinoa' is a member of the Chenopodium family
Wonder if it will self seed like our English Chenopodium (Fat Hen)?
of course it wont self seed i want it to grow, only weeds grow
lbb
[/quote]
Good king henry, of the same family VERY readily self seeds, so you never know your luck, maybe a family trait. ;D

valmarg
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: saddad on July 25, 2008, 15:12:14
I had a line of Good King Henry, in our perennial bed but OH decided she wanted space for Dahlias... one has come up as a self set... trying to persuade her not to weed it out!  ::)
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: valmarg on July 25, 2008, 15:23:47
Saddad, if you manage to keep the plant, and let it go to seed you will be able to grow some more.

Dahlias, you can't eat dahlias. ;D

If you go up to Mickleover, along Long Lane to Rocester, then follow the Alton Towers trail through Denstone to Alton, can in a week or two let you have loads of seeds.  Failing that, pm me your address and I'll send you some. ;D

valmarg
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on July 25, 2008, 22:02:46
QuoteDahlias, you can't eat dahlias.

Oh yes you can!
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: valmarg on July 25, 2008, 22:14:16
Give us a few recipes then. ;D

valmarg
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: littlebabybird on September 01, 2008, 20:54:22
Eristic,
how are the doing?
i had 2 survive, a yellow and a pink
they seem to be abot to die though
maybe they are almst there!

lbb
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on September 01, 2008, 21:20:47
I finished off with a row of 10 plants which have done well. Mine have all been harvested now and are currently drying out in the polytunnel. It will be a week or so before final yield is known and the produce tasted.

As a matter of routine I carried out a germination test from some of the first seed to be collected and seedlings were emerging the night after sowing so be careful not to drop too much or you will have them all over the plot.

(http://downtheplot.com/images/quinoa_aug.jpg)
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: littlebabybird on September 01, 2008, 21:28:10
do they need to lose the colour? or harvest now?
lbb
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on September 01, 2008, 21:36:15
They keep the pretty colours until the seed is rubbed out. I don't really know any more about them than than you as this is my first try. I cut mine ahead of the forcast prolonged wet spell but if yours are already soaked it may be better to leave them standing until they dry out. Are seeds coming away from the head when rubbed between the fingers? This is probably the deciding factor.
Title: Re: Identify these
Post by: Eristic on September 04, 2008, 03:08:40
(http://downtheplot.com/images/quinoa_harvest_1.jpg)

Harvest drying out.