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Title: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Mushy Pea on May 15, 2008, 19:37:50
Can anyone help please  ???

We had two healthy looking flowers on our courgettes but one has dropped off and the other has shrivelled.  We thought that the flowers remained on the end of the courgette hence people could have them as tempura, thus giving a double crop, one the flowers and two the fruit.

What have we done to them??



Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: OllieC on May 15, 2008, 19:54:14
Were these the first couple of flowers by any chance? They normally chuck out a few boys flowers first... and you know about pollination for the girlies, don't you?
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Mushy Pea on May 15, 2008, 20:00:03
Hi OllieC,

It could be as you say the boys. They are the first flowers on the plants. As for the girlies do we leave it to the bees or use a rabbits paw (blusher brush   :D ) to tickle them?



Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: trinity on May 15, 2008, 20:55:26
 I would like to know to if they need a good tickle :o
as it is the first time i have grew them
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: betula on May 15, 2008, 20:56:55
I have never tickled mine but it sounds like fun ;D
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 15, 2008, 23:24:47
They get pollinated quite happily if you'vde got them outdoors.
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: tim on May 16, 2008, 06:48:04
You mean you actually have Courgettes on your plants, Mushy?

Ours have only just gone in!
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Mushy Pea on May 16, 2008, 07:33:40
Thanks for all the replies.  We may not tickle them in that case :-\ 

Tim - we put ours in a fortnight ago in the hot weather.  We have lots of things in, too excited to wait.  We may pay for it later though.  NO VEGGIES.   No courgettes yet only shrivelled flowers.  They look really healthy though.  We thought perhaps we had put them in too early and it was now too cold.

It could still be that the shrivelled ones are boys.......
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: shirlton on May 16, 2008, 07:39:51
Ours aren't even in the ground yet. Lost so much tender stuff last year that we decided to hang back this year. The parsnips still beat me tho and had to sow again
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: tim on May 16, 2008, 09:02:54
So they were the 'boy' flowers, Mushy?

And, since there was nothing for them to do,  they went off.
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Tee Gee on May 16, 2008, 15:46:58
The shrivelling could also mean they have aborted due to cool night time temperatures.

You might want to look at this slide show on hand pollination. http://tinyurl.com/6xw85l


Admittedly the subject is Pumpkins but it is the same principle with all the curcubrits, the only difference is the shape of the embryo fruit behind the flower. 

In the case of cucumbers & courgettes the enbryo is elongated.

But as a general rule most of them are generally pollinated with insects
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Kea on May 16, 2008, 18:16:44
I'm with Tee Gee I think it's still potentially too cold and that would cause the flowers to abort. Also agree with the comment that male flowers appear first not sure if they flower for a shorter period but they certainly won't develop a fruit.
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Mushy Pea on May 17, 2008, 09:26:47
I think I might put some fleece on them to keep them a little warmer, just in case it is the cold.  Checked last night and we have another flower coming on another plant.  The leaves still look healthy though.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: cockadoodledoo on May 17, 2008, 10:01:16
I thought the male flowers only lasted for a few days anyway, and if there are no female flowers on their way then they have probably just come out a bit early and are no use to fruit anyway so wouldnt worry about it........mine have some male buds, not opening yet and tiny startings of the female ones (I can only tell as they are yellow)........did do them a bit early.  Not protected but have sown backups just incase of frost........
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Suzanne on May 17, 2008, 10:15:07
The female flowers develop with what looks like a mini fruit at their base so easy to tell about from the male flowers. I have to say if there is no sign of female flowers and I have a few male ones I harvest these for stuffed courgette flowers - after all they aren't doing anything if there are no female ones around - may as well put them to good use.

My courgettes are still in pots in the cold frame along with the toms and the pumpkins. Last frost date in our area last year last couple of days in May, previous year 3 June.  :o So not taking any chances just yet.
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: colleenemp on May 17, 2008, 17:14:22
Mine are three leaves big on a window sill.....but half my squash are out.
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Mushy Pea on June 17, 2008, 07:28:50
Just a quick update on our "corgies". We had our first crop of four on Saturday.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/pigbun/DSC00135.jpg)

We have three plants in our Bean frame bed.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/pigbun/DSC00137.jpg)

Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: springbok on June 17, 2008, 08:12:21
This is my first attempt at planting them.  When will they be ready to pick?

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/springbokgirlie/DSC00031.jpg)
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 17, 2008, 08:58:50
When they're the size you want. They grow fast.
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: manicscousers on June 17, 2008, 09:04:36
don't let them go too far, you will end up with marrows  ;D
Title: Re: Help, courgette flowers shrivelling
Post by: Mushy Pea on June 17, 2008, 12:11:17
Hi Springbokgirlie,

Your courgettes look just about picking size!  Ours were about 4" long when we harvested.  They were fine.  ;D Quite tasty.   Stuffed courgette flowers were rather good too.

Enjoy

MP