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General => The Shed => Topic started by: kt. on May 07, 2008, 22:17:06

Title: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: kt. on May 07, 2008, 22:17:06
Today I got an email claiming the Government has now removed the Holocaust from the national curriculum in schools because it offends the Muslim population who claim it never happened.  Has anybody heard anything of this or is it a red herring?

It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps, he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.

He did this because he said in words to this effect: 'Get it all on record now – get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some b*stard will get up and say that this never happened'

Is this where we are in society today?
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: Fork on May 07, 2008, 22:33:42
So,when I was stationed in Bergen Hohne during my time in the Army,Belsen was just a mirage was it?

I dont know if there is any truth in this but it would not surprise me in the slightest!
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: springbok on May 07, 2008, 22:35:25
My daughters school talks about it every year, its part of their assembly, they do a remembrance for it.
Most probably hype!!
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: Fork on May 07, 2008, 22:35:49
Just found this

http://www.het.org.uk/content.php?page_id=263
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: redimp on May 07, 2008, 22:39:04
http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/schemes2/secondary_history/his19/?view=get
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: kt. on May 07, 2008, 22:40:33
Quote from: Fork on May 07, 2008, 22:35:49
Just found this

http://www.het.org.uk/content.php?page_id=263

Happy with that.  It is a good enough answer for me.
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: betula on May 07, 2008, 22:42:29
There is an historian called David Irving who has written that the Holocaust never happened.He is much beloved by the Far Right.

I do not believe there is any truth that the Muslim people do not believe in the Holocaust.They may have taken it from the N.C  for the same reason they have taken Churchill from it,or so I have read.

Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: Fork on May 07, 2008, 22:44:03
You're welcome.

By the way,I was RAMC too.22 years and 77 days  ;D
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: Tin Shed on May 07, 2008, 22:46:24
My aunt was in the first group of nurses to go into Belsen when it was liberated. The soldiers would not let the nusses go in straight away as it was so terrible.
She can still remember the smell of the gruel/porridge that was made for them at the beginning of the liberation - they were all so starving that they would have been unable to eat proper food straight away.
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: saddad on May 07, 2008, 22:53:24
We have a large muslim population in our school and none have ever suggested to me that the Holocaust "never happened".... we still teach it inour History syllabus and I for one would throw in the towel if we were ever made to leave it out...
:-\
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: katynewbie on May 07, 2008, 22:54:33
 >:(

I find it appalling that  anyone can doubt the Holocaust. I find it equally abhorrent that people can use such an event to excuse blatant racism. The kind of excuses used to find a reason to encourage Islamophobia never cease to amaze me.

I just wish we could all see the sense in this and try to get along...
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: ACE on May 08, 2008, 08:28:40
Quote from: katynewbie on May 07, 2008, 22:54:33
>:(

The kind of excuses used to find a reason to encourage Islamophobia never cease to amaze me.



Quite agree, I already have enough reasons of my own.
Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: Kea on May 08, 2008, 10:13:01
I visited a museum in Nurnberg which contained wall after wall of photo's of the concentration camps.

As an immigrant myself (though a white New Zealander with Scottish, Irish, English and French Huguenot ancestors!) I fully believe that you should fit yourself in to your new country. That is, respect their laws, their ways of doing things and not expect your new country to change to suit you. If you don't speak the language of the new country it is up to you to learn it not for you to insist on information being provided for you in your language etc

Quite frankly if the way of life doesn't suit you here, you don't want to learn English and you can't integrate..... go back to where you belong.

Title: Re: Is there any truth in this?
Post by: timnsal on May 08, 2008, 16:17:37
It's one of those emails that turn up every so often, and is as accurate as most of the "virus warnings" - ie completely untrue. I first saw it a couple of years ago, I think, but it's been doing the rounds for longer.

Sally