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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Mushy Pea on May 02, 2008, 21:54:27

Title: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: Mushy Pea on May 02, 2008, 21:54:27
Hi again,

Lots of questions at the moment.  We have a few potatoes shooting ;D and their noses are perhaps an inch above the soil.  Do we hoe them up now or wait a bit longer?

Thanks

Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: posie on May 02, 2008, 22:09:02
I think its between 4 and 6 inches that you start earthing them up.  Someone else more knowledgeable than me may say otherwise!
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: amphibian on May 03, 2008, 08:03:52
Leave them, wait til you can earth them up without burying them. Though strangely enough many people build the mounds up when they sow them, cannot understand why.
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: Gazfoz on May 03, 2008, 08:13:42
Probably to save themselves time/work.
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: Larkshall on May 03, 2008, 08:42:46
They don't need to be "earthed-up", my father always dug the ground over and planted the potatoes at the same time. The only reason for earthing-up is to keep the tubers from going green, these days you can do the same job with a lot less work. You could cover the ground with black plastic (pierce holes through it to allow the water through) or better still, use Taram (the material used to prevent weeds growing through tarmac) this is woven material which allows the water through anyway. Using black plastic or Taram will prevent the weeds growing as well. Taram will last several years.
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: northener on May 03, 2008, 08:55:30
can you put taram straight down or does the foliage need some light
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: tomatoada on May 03, 2008, 20:48:58
I believe you can use grass clippings but I don't know if they have to be fresh or whether you can use them from bags which have been stored.  Does anyone know?
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: manicscousers on May 03, 2008, 20:54:51
we use both, a tip from bob flowerdew, when you can't earth the spuds up any more, do a newspaper collar, fit it around, cover with grass clippings, keeps the spuds from getting green  ;D
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: littlegem on May 03, 2008, 21:57:38
i used grass clipping the other year and they were fine, far less work involved!  this year I am doing my new pots in grow bags, compost bags and marshalls pot bags and i will be topping/earthing up with grass clippings, shredded paper and straw.  I reckon i will be able to feed them enough with the compost i've already used and a little top up of liuid feed so the stuff i put on just to keep the light off won't need any feed within itself
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: Uncle Joshua on May 03, 2008, 22:06:17
I "earth up" my potatoes when I plant them, I never understand waiting to do it and having done it that way since  I was 7 (33 years this year) I have never had a problem.
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: littlegem on May 03, 2008, 22:17:44
i 'earth up' my pots on the ground cos it helps with the weeding, and i 'earth up' my pots in the bags with stuff cos it costs less than compost. I have heard of peeps planting there pots really far down and not earthing up and they seem to have plentiful crops. i think it's a case of '6 of one, half a dozen of the other' what ever makes you happy and whatever works for you. like the old saying goes, if it aint broke - dont fix it. so.. if it works - keep doing it!
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: Larkshall on May 03, 2008, 22:30:45
Quote from: northener on May 03, 2008, 08:55:30
can you put taram straight down or does the foliage need some light

Of course, you need to make holes for the  the potato tops to grow through. The best way to do this is to cut a cross in the taram where you are going to plant the potato (same with black plastic).

It would be interesting to know if "earthing-up" was done before farmers started using ridger ploughs, or were ridger ploughs invented to carry on a previous practice.
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: northener on May 04, 2008, 08:50:55
Mick -its better to ridge up as they grow that way you're weeding as well.
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: Mushy Pea on May 04, 2008, 10:10:44
Thank you for all your interesting ideas.

Showing my ignorance now - will the potatoes grow on the shoots that are showing now above ground if we 'earth up' or cover with grass etc, or is the idea of covering just to stop the pots. under the ground from going green?

Hope I have explained that okay.

Thanks
Title: Re: another question - hoeing up potatoes
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 04, 2008, 10:22:47
Covering them buries part of the stem, and if you bury enough, tubers will grow on it. If you grow them on the flat, you can get more plants into the space; if you plant rows and earth up, then in theory you get more spuds per plant. Covering also stops the spuds going green, and mulching with grass keeps the soil moist and feeds the plants.