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Title: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: springbok on May 01, 2008, 20:18:55
Can anyone identify what this bush is?  I have cut it out of my hedge.  I have noticed that a few people have it living in their box hedges!

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Title: Re: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: star on May 01, 2008, 20:20:43
It looks like an ash tree SBG, IF YOU CAN GET RID OF THE ROOTS ALL THE BETTER. iT WILL KEEP GROWING BACK.................sorry caps lock!!
Title: Re: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: springbok on May 01, 2008, 20:22:52
Star do you know how to get rid of the roots.  I dont want to destroy the box hedge :(

So seems we have a problem round here of sycamore trees and ash trees then :D

Thanks for ID'ing it for me.

Title: Re: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: star on May 01, 2008, 20:26:18
Apart from digging them out or poisoning no hun Im sorry, both those methods will disturb the box hedge. I would hang on for some more replies, there may be a stump killer that onlt affects the stump.

I dont do weedkillers so I know nothing of what is out there these days :)
Title: Re: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: Bryan on May 01, 2008, 20:31:11
Sorry to interupt, but you have a Sambucus there, not an ash. This is commonly known as elderberry,and the roots are not hard to dig out, but if you want to take the short cut, dab a little glyphosphate on the cut ends and this will kill off the rest of the plant.
Hope this elps,
Bryan.
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Post by: star on May 01, 2008, 20:33:27
Bryan thanks for the correction, I really should wear my glasses :( That makes life a lot easier then for you SBG  :D
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Post by: springbok on May 01, 2008, 20:37:47
Heres two more pics, one of the stem and a close up of the leaves.  It doesnt look like elderberry and it never flowers.

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(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/springbokgirlie/DSC00544.jpg)
Title: Re: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: star on May 01, 2008, 20:42:08
Bryan was right SBG, it is elderberry. It must depend on age or something to flower. But it would if it was left alone ;)
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Post by: sarah on May 01, 2008, 20:58:12
definately looks like elderberry.
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 01, 2008, 22:27:28
It does, and it's definitely not ash. The one in my hedge didn't start flowering till it was about 8 foot high.
Title: Re: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: Twospot Ladybird on May 02, 2008, 14:14:16
I agree with the Elderberry. They flower the previous years growth (if I remember correctly) so if it gets cut back every time you cut back your box then that explains the lack of flowers. I got flowers on mine the first year I planted, planted 2 years ago, it's not even 3ft yet. Mine is an ornamental variety of our native Elder (Sambucus Nigra, mine is 'Black Lace').
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Post by: grannyjanny on May 02, 2008, 21:27:01
I think elder has a nasty smell (to my nose anyway).
Janet.
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 02, 2008, 23:22:46
It's good for keeping witches off your plot.
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Post by: sheddie on May 02, 2008, 23:46:33
I'd wage a few quid that its elderberry - I've had loads myself - those stems are unmistakable.

I chopped mine down to a few inches off the ground and covered them with black polythene. Killed them off no bother!

Makes a cracking home brew wine if you decide to keep some though - hic!...
Title: Re: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: PurpleHeather on May 03, 2008, 06:45:46
I was told that a copper nail banged into the root or trunk would kill the tree off but not harm the soil.

I have never tried it, I have never found any copper nails.

It could be an old wives tale and useless information.
Title: Re: Weed/Plant ID please :D
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 03, 2008, 09:01:04
I tried it once, on a sycamore. It had no effect at all.
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Post by: Amazin on May 04, 2008, 00:00:15
Twospot, you can make fabbo elderflower champers from the flowers of the 'Black Lace'. I've been doing it for a few years now. It has a lovely mild, fruity flavour. I don't know about the strength but it doesn't seem to be very xjkas vfnjk ehjr flibble.....