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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: kt. on March 26, 2008, 12:25:10

Title: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: kt. on March 26, 2008, 12:25:10
I am after a grape vine for my greenhouse at home, black grapes and seedless if possible.  It will probably go in the ground as opposed to pots & I hope to gain maximum yield from it.  As I live in the North East and it is not as sunny as the south, am I restricted to variety?    I would also consider an outdoor variety if it would produce here in the Northeast.  I have found these:

http://www.marshalls-seeds.co.uk/rkmain.asp?PAGEID=20671

I am swayed towards the Crimson.  Suggestions please.
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: cleo on March 26, 2008, 12:57:05
To be honest I don`t think you have any chance for outside.

Indoors-try a google for a specialist supplier,and remember a vine can take up an awful lot of space so be prepared to learn how to prune them .

Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: davyw1 on March 26, 2008, 14:10:45
KT, I think you are pushing it to get a grape to grow up here outside. The problem is not getting the vine to grow but getting the grape to ripen, but they are quite successful in the greenhouse without heat.
What we do is to put the root outside in the ground at the North end of the greenhouse then train it through a hole up to the roof and toward the south end of the greenhouse.
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: kt. on March 26, 2008, 16:38:39
In that case; variety suggestions suited only to an unheated greenhouse only then please.  ???
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: manicscousers on March 26, 2008, 16:42:18
we're growing 2 types of grapes by the orchard house method..both types won't grow where we live ..I started a thread about it if you're interested  :)
it's in search  :)
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: Barnowl on March 26, 2008, 16:57:47
There's a thread on this from last year that might be helpful, but I expect new varieties are coming out every year.

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,30332.0.html (http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,30332.0.html)
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: goodlife on March 26, 2008, 17:02:36
Hi there
Try www.deaconsnurseryfruits.co.uk ... they sell lots of different grape varieties all suitable to UK climate.
By growing in the greenhouse you can grow more and less any variety you want.
I grow classic Black Hamburg in cold polytunnel..I never close ventilation/windows and it is doing well...cropping more than we eat...
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: Gazfoz on March 26, 2008, 17:26:31
Black Hamburg, I agree. It is a desert grape although not seedless tastes better than most seedless varieties, good cropper and will ripen but not outdoors.

Gary.
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: Stevens706 on March 27, 2008, 12:37:50
I bought a Lakemont seedless grape vine last year for my greenhouse here near Preston, link below

http://cgi.www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk/cgi-bin/www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk/ss000001.pl?SS=grapes&PR=-1&TB=A&SHOP=
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: saddad on March 27, 2008, 15:04:21
I have a regent outside here but it's not seedless so I watch with interest!
;D
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: Jeannine on March 27, 2008, 15:09:36
I have  a very productive Black Hamburg
Title: Re: What variety of grape vine is best for the North East weather
Post by: davholla on March 27, 2008, 16:06:20
Bob Flowerdew says Boskoop Glory

http://shopping.guardian.co.uk/household/story/0,,1591632,00.html

But I think it is meant for wine.