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Produce => Non Edible Plants => Topic started by: tishop on March 10, 2008, 00:13:17

Title: Allium christophii
Post by: tishop on March 10, 2008, 00:13:17
Hi all, newbie here.

Anyone else growing this wonderful plant? I've five bulbs in my insect-attracting herb and flower bed and one's already looking big enough to be thinking about sending up an early flower spike. Check out my allotment blog to find a pic of them:

http://plot61a.blogspot.com/search/label/Allium%20christophii (http://plot61a.blogspot.com/search/label/Allium%20christophii)

They received lots of praise from neighbours last year and the bumbles just loved them!

Looking forward to being part of the forum,
tishop :)x





Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: robkb on March 10, 2008, 10:49:28
I've got several bulbs planted in the garden and they are great! Also, the dried seed heads look amazing in a vase.

Cheers,
Rob  ;)
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: glosterwomble on March 10, 2008, 11:37:45
Hi Tishop, welcome to the group. Your blog looks great, I'll have to sit down with a bottle of wine later and have a good read!! We've planted Allium Christophii in the garden but I haven't looked to see what they're doing yet. Can't wait to see what they're like, I love alliums and been meaning to put some in for ages!
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: ACE on March 10, 2008, 14:05:36
I have quite a few of these grown in clumps of 15 to 20 dotted around the garden. I leave the seed heads on for as long as I can, then I spray the best of them up with metalic spray paints for xmas decorations.
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: caroline7758 on March 10, 2008, 19:14:41
I have had a clump growing for about three or four years but they seem to do less well every year. Maybe due to competition from other plants, but should I divide them, or feed them, do you think? If so, when?
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Baaaaaaaa on March 10, 2008, 20:48:25
I was lead to believe that they should be divided every few years. Just dug up the bulb, gentle pressure will make the bulb split into 2/3 or 4 cloves (?), and just replant the cloves.

I did this, never saw them again !
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 12, 2008, 19:57:44
Mine tend to swindle as well. Maybe it's a fussy plant; I've only found one spot where I can grow crown imperials, and they sulk everywhere else! This could be another one.
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: tishop on March 12, 2008, 22:07:34
Cheers everyone!

Yes, looking it up, it does seem to be somewhat particular as to it's situation. About the best instructions I found says "full sun and humusy, well-drained soil." It also listed a long list of 'problems', including: white rot, mildew, rust and thrips (the sort of thing that would put off anyone but the most expierenced of gardeners from growing it!) A pity I think as the 'Stars of Persia' (I also discovered that this is it's most popular common name) is a gem - at least so long as it keeps going in my garden! :)
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: caroline7758 on March 13, 2008, 08:56:33
Quote from: tishop on March 12, 2008, 22:07:34
(the sort of thing that would put off anyone but the most expierenced of gardeners from growing it!)

Especially given the price of allium bulbs! (unless you are growing them as onions of course- why is that?)
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on March 13, 2008, 14:25:24
Anyone tried collecting the seeds and sowing them ?

Are they more difficult that normal onions to grow ?
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 13, 2008, 18:07:53
Probably not. A lot of ornamental alliums come easily from seed, but I haven't tried these.
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Garden Manager on July 14, 2008, 15:07:31
I have just bought some of these after seeing them in gardens I have visited.

I am however not sure how deep to plant them. Can anyone tell me please?

Thanks
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 14, 2008, 19:03:14
Dig out a trowelful of soil, drop the bulb in, put the soil back. You won't have any problems.
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: tishop on July 14, 2008, 20:23:08
QuoteDig out a trowelful of soil

Yeah, that sounds good. Around 20 cm deep to base of bulb and spaced about 30 cm apart in full sun.
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on July 15, 2008, 01:12:33
The general bulb planting rule applies to Alliums, ie dig a hole 3 times the height ofthe bulb.

The deeper the more stable the plant will be, but too deep and the thing wont flower.

I'd also put a handfull of grit/sand under the buld to help drainage and stop the bulb from rotting.

Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Garden Manager on July 16, 2008, 09:53:58
Thanks. When would be the best time to plant them? I have the bulbs ready to go in. Can i do it now?
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Palustris on July 16, 2008, 10:07:31
Already? That is early. We normally buy and plant them from September up to the end of October.
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Garden Manager on July 16, 2008, 10:10:08
Quote from: Palustris on July 16, 2008, 10:07:31
Already? That is early. We normally buy and plant them from September up to the end of October.

Found a stand selling them at Hampton Court last week, Eric. Hence the request.

Should i store them untill autumn then?
Title: Re: Allium christophii
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 16, 2008, 20:35:37
If you have them, plant them. Then you won't have to worry about storage. They'll be much less likely to suffer in their normal habitat.