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Title: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: mrf94 on February 20, 2008, 14:27:43
Ive been thinking about insulation for the shed, the walls are about 6 inches thick being palletsand hollow, ive had a couple of sugestions ie wool newspaper etc , i thought of straw , and then it hit me ..

Duvets. man made materials, definately warm, easy to cut to fit. and what do people do with them when they buy a new one?

Any thoughts on the subject? reasons why it wont work, anything im missing.

mrf94
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: Uncle Joshua on February 20, 2008, 14:31:25
I think shredded news  would work well.
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: saddad on February 20, 2008, 14:40:39
Mice would love it!
;D
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: twinkletoes on February 20, 2008, 14:44:14
If you don't mind mice - you could always try Freecycle for a couple of duvets.
Twinkletoes
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Post by: betula on February 20, 2008, 14:48:11
I have mice in the shed,I think the duvet is a great idea but you may find it becomes a des res for the little sweeties. :)
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Post by: Tee Gee on February 20, 2008, 14:59:16
The first thing that come into my mind was;

OK it will keep you and the stuff you keep in the shed warmer but it will also keep  all forms of 'wildlife (good & bad) warm at this time of year as well??

Can you get hold of sheet polystyrene as used in cavity wall lining.

Perhaps there are offcuts lying about on a nearby building site.

You did ask ::)
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: mrf94 on February 20, 2008, 15:03:52
Well it was a good idea while it lasted,

Thanks all,

Back to the drawing board , i had thought of polystyrene but couldnt thing where to get it
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Post by: springbok on February 20, 2008, 15:06:01
Try your local tidy tip.

I pinched polystyrene for my cold frame when my neighbours had a fridge delivered.  The companies that take them away must dispose of the stuff somewhere.

:)
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: Eristic on February 20, 2008, 15:12:51
I think the duvet will get damp.
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: star on February 20, 2008, 15:26:55
I would say very damp, then smell and go mouldy. You cant treat mice in that way.......shame on you MRF :D
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Post by: froglets on February 20, 2008, 15:41:28
Mice shredded my sheets of polystyrene to make nests.  Barstewards.  A year later I'm still finding little bits of white static balls gettin in the way.  If only there was enough meat on the little darlings........
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: morton on February 20, 2008, 15:54:38
I like the way everyone talks about mice eating the proposed lining. My main concern would be that it would attract rats. They would soon find out if somewhere is warm and cosy.
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Post by: Old bird on February 20, 2008, 16:00:56
I remember in the distant past I bought a HUGE sheet of polystyrene from a builders merchants for next to nothing!  But the other thing I would try to get on Freecycle or whatever would be fibreglass.  Vermin certainly would not like it and it won't store damp.

Good luck whatever.  You may remember though that wood is a good insulator in its own right so you may be able to line it is thin timber with an air gap?!

Just a girl talking so probably completely out of order!!

Old Bird
;D
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Post by: saddad on February 20, 2008, 16:01:46
QuoteIf only there was enough meat on the little darlings........
Well I've caught over 36... so it would cut down on the meat bill......
;D
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Post by: Eristic on February 20, 2008, 18:28:31
QuoteWell I've caught over 36... so it would cut down on the meat bill......

Save a bit on cat food if nothing else.

As for insulation, air is also a good insulator if it is trapped in the cavity. Given that the walls are made of pallets can they not be simply lined on the inside?
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: mrf94 on February 20, 2008, 19:05:35
They are lined on the inside ,it was the cavity i was going to fill,
and i dont think damp will be a problem,

The original idea was to put bricks in the cavity as a heatsink but lining
lets that one out, besides dont want the mice fetching sand and cement to set up home in the bricks.

So really im left with rockwool type stuff to deter the critters, anything
else is home making material for them .

Darn i was  sure the duvet idea was pure genious...

Perhaps the wifes right , maybe im not as  clever as i think i am.

Lord please dont let it be so Shes bad enough already.

mrf94
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: star on February 20, 2008, 19:24:35
There, there, there.........your secrets safe with us mate ;) :-*
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Post by: GrannieAnnie on February 20, 2008, 19:35:18
Some people in the states have insulated whole walls with empty tin cans/bottles. So you chug-a-lug your beer and chuck the can up in the attic til you have a nice layer. Would that work?
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Post by: carolinej on February 20, 2008, 19:44:00
Who knows....but think of the fun you will have finding out ;D


cj :)
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Post by: kenkew on February 20, 2008, 19:54:26
Egg boxes.
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: mrf94 on February 20, 2008, 20:59:45
Ideas good but i dont drink, and it wouldnt be any diff to just leaving the cavity empty ,egg boxes  back to mouse houses,

mrg94
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: GrannieAnnie on February 20, 2008, 21:03:09
Quote from: carolinej on February 20, 2008, 19:44:00
Who knows....but think of the fun you will have finding out ;D


cj :)
Probably many will want to be participants in the trial but none volunteer to be the Control.
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: caroline7758 on February 21, 2008, 09:04:31
Someone on York freecycle was offering some old loft insulation the other day- with the push for better insulation and more people doing loft conversions rather than move, there must be lots of it about? Try a wanted ad on freecycle?
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: mrf94 on February 21, 2008, 14:47:27
Thanks will do that

mrf94
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: sheddie on February 21, 2008, 22:15:20
Bubblewrap works well as a good insulator if you can get a load cheap. Just shove a load into the cavity.

If often seen huge rolls of it going on ebay for next to nowt.

I agree, the duvet wouldn't be advisable - soo as it got damp it would end up stinking - unless maybe a feather duvet! - althought a tad expensive no doubt.
Sheddie
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: carolinej on February 21, 2008, 22:41:16
Crumpled up plastic carriers, bread bags ,etc that are not recyclable?

cj :)
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: mrf94 on February 21, 2008, 23:14:08
Have put a wanted on freecycle,

Now to wait and see

mrf94
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: Eristic on February 22, 2008, 00:17:02
QuoteBubblewrap works well as a good insulator if you can get a load cheap. Just shove a load into the cavity.

Just how is anyone supposed to have a quiet skive in the shed with all the mice popping the bubbles in the wrappers? ::)
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: star on February 22, 2008, 17:11:15
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: My brainstorm..whats your opinion?
Post by: sheddie on February 22, 2008, 22:34:41
QuoteJust how is anyone supposed to have a quiet skive in the shed with all the mice popping the bubbles in the wrappers?

Heh Heh - but are mices' thumbs big enough to pop them?! ;D

Don't blame them - can't resist popping them myself, they do work well but would be all popped by time I got them in.

On a serious note though - BQ etc sell loft/roof insulation which is basically a tin foil version of bubblewrap for 30 odd quid a roll! :P