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Title: reassurance needed
Post by: aquilegia on July 12, 2004, 16:04:10
Someone please tell me they've had miserable harvests this year. After looking through the gallery I'm feeling like an utter failure as a gardener.

So far I've had:
3oz potatoes
three tiny beetroots
a few handfuls of tiny radishes
a few feeds of strawberries
quite a few lettuces. but tiny ones.

OK - admittedly I probably don't grow as much as a lot of you, but what I have managed to harvest so far has been utterly pathetic.  :'(

(I'm still waiting for the fruits on my 40-odd tomato plants to rippen - then I'll be happy!)
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Plocket on July 12, 2004, 16:24:26
Aquilegia, I am hardly the person to reassure you because I don't have an allotment or do lots of veg. However, I did grow some lettuces in two pots this year (my first attempt at lettuce). And the cat c**ped on one pot so the whole lot had to be thrown out. The others are looking a bit scared now!!!
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: allotment_chick on July 12, 2004, 17:20:22
Hi aqui - fear not, old chum.....most of us are there with you - especially if we are working or have other commitments in our lives.  

Anyway, haven't you noticed that all of the best crops are on other peoples plots!?  My friend literally chucked in some autumn onion sets last year and they grew into wonderful bulbs....I nurtured my summer ones and have just had to harvest them because of the weather - results?  Pathetic!

Just remember the mantra..... gardening is still cheaper than the gym and even no result in the garden is better than a day at the office!  

AC x  :D
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: tim on July 12, 2004, 18:36:24
Depressing, isn't it, Aqui?
Would it help if we posted our failures, rather than our successes?
1. Spring onions open sown 29/3 are barely usable even now.
2. All shallots & garlic lifted through white rot. Onions also have it but, with luck, some may be clean enough to store, short term.
3. 2 rows of first early pots got blight before they could be sprayed. One lot had 2 or 3 marbles each. Others have some infection but may go full term.
4. Out of 40 new asparagus plants, about 10 have survived.
5. Half the bought-in broccoli plants went to seed at 3".
6. Bought-in winter cabbage weren't, so we're eating an awful lot of summer cabbages.
7. 2 rows of carrots produced thin, hairy apologies for the real thing.
8. The 'new' romaine-type lettuces look great, but have little heart.
9.  The climbing beans won't. And the gales didn't help. Whereas some folk are harvesting bundles, ours haven't even set fruit yet. Only blackfly. We normally expect to pick runners on 25/7.
10. All the corn was flattened in the gale.
11. The new type cus have flowers up to 8', but no fruit.

Have I made a point? Or depressed you beyond recall?

IF one had the time, successive sowings/plantings? - in different parts of the plot? How's the health of your soil - in humus & nutrients? Do you always water before you sow - & puddle in after planting?
OK - boring old stuff - but, if I've been getting my hands seriously dirty since 1934, with an ex-Army market-gardening father, and would NEVER give it up, there must be SOMETHING in it?? = Tim



Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Mrs Ava on July 12, 2004, 18:47:03
Aqui, we only post our good pics, not our disasters!  Maybe we should start a new thread  showing pictures of our failures.  To carry on Tim's theme:

1.  Have now sowed 7 varieties of carrots, and of those that have bothered to germinate, they are only tiny
2.  Spring sown broadbeans munched by something, and even tho they are now netted, something has gotten in and started on the new babies
3.  Romaine lettuce bolted when we had only just started eating them
4. Garlic got terrible rust so didn't get as big as it should
5. Lost half the shallots to white rot
6. Red Duke of York spuds only produced 3 or 4 spuds per plant - poor harvest
7.  Birds beat me to my redcurrants and stripped the bush clean
8.  And now somebody or something has had it away with all of my gooseberrys!
9. Wind and Mr Fox have bent every single stem on all of my spring planted onions, so they have stopped growing, even tho some are the size of scallions!
10.  Had to sow my peas 3 times before realising the pigeons were eating the young shoots!

You tell us you don't have an allotment, or a garden the size of a country estate, so I figure even just a taster of some home grown veggies is a bonus - I mean, my fennel is a goner, yours is still growing good and strong! Chin up girl.  You know you are going to have more toms that you can shake a ketchup covered stick at!  ;D
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Ceri on July 12, 2004, 20:10:05
failures to date:
not a single carrot - 3 different varieties, not a bit of orange in sight.  Sweetcorn not even made 1ft high yet, and of each pea seed planted next to each corn plant, exactly none have germinated.  
Seed packets I have bought and are still in their packets because I forgot to sow them: swede, romanesco, celeriac (funnily enough they haven't germinated either!), Charlotte spuds were desperately low yielding and v. depressing as they were the first spuds I've ever harvested!
Boy this is the best thread in ages - I feel so much better now!
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: TrailRat on July 12, 2004, 20:28:11
Makes me wonder if I should bother. ;D

TrailRat
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Roy Bham UK on July 12, 2004, 22:22:17
I had a dabble in growing the long raddish and at the mo I'm harvesting about one raddish a week but I hasten to add it is tastier than Tesco's ;D
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: aquilegia on July 13, 2004, 09:26:34
Sorry all. Just had a bad day yesterday, so was feeling rather miserable. But having read all this lot, I feel much better knowing I'm not alone :)

But you're right EJ - even one tasty homegrown treat is far better than a whole pound from the supermarket. We've stopped buying strawberries as a pummet full cannot beat the few homegrown ones we've got.

And I've also forgotten the main point of the thing - it's to grow stuff, harvesting is a bonus (I don't get to eat most of my flowers!)
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: jo2 on July 13, 2004, 09:49:48
If its any consolation I have always grown runner beans at home, dead easy, throw them in watch them grow and some weeks later loads of beans.  This year, my first go at the allotment they look so pathetic people are asking what strain of drawf beans are we growing.  I have never seen such sad sickly excuses of plants! (admitadly I transplanted them during the hot spell-but these are beyond a joke)
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: busy_lizzie on July 13, 2004, 12:41:32
It is so good to read a thread like this.  Have had good successes this year, but sweet corn little more that 18" high, fennel gone to seed.  beetroot hardly came up.  Peas planted three times and still struggling and carrots planted twice before any response.  Nice to know others are in the same boat.   :D busy_lizzie
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: derbex on July 13, 2004, 13:43:13
My peas, and mange-tout have gone nowhere. Something strange may be at the spuds, first lot of beans failed, similarly sweetcorn, blackfly everywhere, ditto weeds., and one cucumber has powdery mildew (milk works better than bicarb) the other has I don't know what the leaves get speckled then go yellow then brown patches-spider mites?

OTOH -we're eating spuds and cucumbers, it was a good year for the raspberries (and roses :)), plenty of courgettes, the tomatos are just about there and my new stepovers haven't died yet.

Oh and the pumpkins have gone ape -if they keep it up, I will have one pleased little daughter.

Jeremy
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Val on July 13, 2004, 14:38:08
 :D Isn't it kind of daft but a thread about peoples failures has really brightened me up, what kind of person does that make me ???I didn't grow any beans this year, last years crop, 1 bean. It was so embarrassing :-[ maybe it was the dry weather, but whatever I couldn't bring myself to repeat it, now you've all given me renewed enthusiasm for next year, thanks folks.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: feet of clay on July 13, 2004, 23:02:38
I thought it was only me that had stuff that didn't 'do'. I'm pleased with my spuds - first and second earlies. My toms are OK - but not a hint of ripening and I have courgettes everywhere cos a 'friend' gave me seeds telling me they were cucumbers - got no cucumbers but 4 big courgette plants - two of which are taking over the greenhouse together with another 'cucumber' that's a squash.  My rocket has - well - rocketted and my carrots are pathetic but the peppers and chillies seem OK and I've finally got aubergine flowers.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Doris_Pinks on July 13, 2004, 23:15:42
Carrots........8 sowings and not a single one left! ( I have slugs the size of hippos!)
Fennel............12 healthy plants.....see above!!!
Radish...by the row loads...see above!
Carrots, did I mention them already! Grrrrrrrrr
6 large squash plants..........yes you guessed it!!!
Oh and of course my prize winning sunflowers.........I HATE slugs!!!!
(BUT did manage to get 3 in and protected them well!!)
But on the up side, I had a slug hunt today and murdered over 100 of them!

Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: carrot-cruncher on July 14, 2004, 04:14:17
Three rows of parsnips - only 1 grew
Four rows of carrots - approx half have grown
Sweetcorn - still only approx 12 inches high
Green beans - planted at the base of canes but totally ignored them and have all bolted sideways
Peas - I'm positive I planted three rows!!!!!
French beans - struggling manfully
Raspberries - one & half pounds to me, rest to the b****y pigeons
Potatoes - threw in the ground and ignored them, doing brilliantly
Bindweed & thistles - self-sown & colonised rest of the plot.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: growmore on July 14, 2004, 10:54:15
What's with all the doom and gloom ..
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(http://img41.exs.cx/img41/8890/Sweetcorn1.jpg)
Lets have some positive stuff..The only grumble I have got and it was my own Fault for leaving em too long is that my rocket tatties are growing too big,,With all the gloom stories we will be putting new lottie owners off,,.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Ceri on July 14, 2004, 12:12:42
Personally as a first season lottie holder I am enormously cheered by the doom and gloom!  When all I ever hear and see is wonderful huge harvests I can get a bit dispirited, think I must be doing it all wrong and although I'm not tempted to throw in the towel, I could understand others doing so.  Knowing that despite the best efforts of the highly experienced even they have their failures can be a bit of a relief to us wet behind the ears types!  I think celebrating, or at least sharing the failures as well as the successes stops newbies feeling they're not good enough growers to play on this site and staying as lurkers.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Val on July 14, 2004, 13:35:58
 ;DWell said Ceri, couldn't have put it better myself, also the experienced might know the reason why the rest of us have crop failurers, we want to see both really don't we, so we've greatness to aspire to. lol.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Mrs Ava on July 14, 2004, 13:43:35
It is great to share our successes and failures and provides me with a good dose of healthy envy looking at Growmores cucumbers and healthy glee knowing that others have similar failures as me - or I have a success where another fails...if you get my drift....  :-\  

Thing is, for every failure, something else does great so I am happy with my failures and overjoyed with my successes!  ;D
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Tenuse on July 14, 2004, 13:47:53
I absolutely love something my partner's dad told me. He has had an allotment for a long time and is a great gardener generally.

Somebody asked him why he was such a good gardener. His answer?

"I've killed an awful lot of plants."

Loved it!  ;D

Ten x
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Val on July 14, 2004, 13:50:45
Just about sums it up , its great to talk to each other about it, it gives you confidence.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: rosebud on July 14, 2004, 14:17:01
Aqui  If you want to see failure come and look at my tomatoe plants.
never happened to me before. :o
Only things i am really happy about are my fuschias ,and we cant eat those. ???     So chin up girl. cheers Mary.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: growmore on July 14, 2004, 14:20:08
Sorry Peeps if  i was sounding Flippant i werent being .. :(
I  only grow for table and freezer nowt exoctic..
But I thought if I had just took a lotty over and I had got reading this thread .I would have thought is it worth it ??
So I stuck pics in just to encourage and show You can bring veggie
home and it ain't all disasters..

Good job I garden better than I spell,,,
ps.
I daren't put a pic of my red onions on now >>lol
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Chantenay on July 14, 2004, 16:50:09
All my garlic has decided to be single bulbed and failed to form into cloves.
The Florence fennel is so tiny you need a magnifying glass to see it.
As are the spring onions.
Carrot fly - say no more.
The rabbits guzzled the asparagus peas just as they blossomed.
And they guzzled the swede's - the few that germinated that is.
And talking about germination - where are the parsnips, that's what I want to know???
Chin up lass - at least we are out in the fresh air and have an interest.
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: Wicker on July 14, 2004, 20:41:33
My now almost perpetual failure is spring onions - same this year again very sparse first and second sowings even tried another lot in moduloes but they didn't appear at all so far so a fourth sowing which might be a bit better.....

Beetroot usually fine but this year first sowing very very sparse and only 1" high second sowing 2" high so a third sowing went in today ........

rhubarb very thin and sickly this year - one picking only.....

my carefully sown fancy aquilegias have come to virtually nothing - about six out of two packets and they are failing fast and my salvias the same gone before they flourished ...

strawberries - okaaaaay but not at all what they should have been ....

And I am an old hand at the allotment - but take nothing at all for granted and there's always next year ....
Title: Re:reassurance needed
Post by: tim on July 15, 2004, 06:55:24
Growmore - I think you should be showing that lot off under the "harvested today" slot? This is an agony aunt's column!!

Wicker - sponions - me too. Try covering the modules with fine vermiculite. I find it often gives better results than compost. = Tim