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Title: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on January 28, 2008, 13:49:28
I've been asked for this one again.
First pic's are for standard pots.
Second lot of pic's show an adjustable one I use for things requiring a longer rather than wider root system.
Leave the plant in the paper pot when planting. Just make a few holes with your fingers before planting out.
Ken.
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: beckydore on February 03, 2008, 10:23:54
What's the second one made from - drainpipes??
Becky
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on February 03, 2008, 14:53:54
Yes, plastic drain pipe. This one is about 2" across. The outer one slides to make longer ones although it's just as easy to cut longer pipe!
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: Baaaaaaaa on February 07, 2008, 15:36:45
Baaaaaaaa-riliant, but where can I get some Belgium newspaper from ? ???
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: star on February 07, 2008, 16:46:25
Belgium?
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Post by: Froglegs on February 07, 2008, 17:58:02
Do you just tuck the end in or do ya glue it ???
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: cornykev on February 07, 2008, 19:24:53
Give it a good tuck.  ;)    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on February 08, 2008, 13:54:23
Take hold of the bottom end where you should have plenty of spare paper, twist and push into the bottom of the can, firm but not too hard. This will hold the pot together.
If I have any wallpaper paste legt over I put a smear on the edge of the paper at the final roll.
Been doing this for more years than I can remember. It's pots for free, no cleaning and sterilising every spring and it's environmentally 100% better than plastic!
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: caseylee on February 13, 2008, 11:06:32
sorry if this is a silly question, when I wrap the newspaper on the cans should I wet the end to make it stick, and when I water the seeds does the pots fall apart or do they stay together quiet well,and last but not least how many times should the paper go around the can to make them secure
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on February 13, 2008, 11:23:34
Tabloid size newspaper: Open it up at the middle pages. Tear down the centre crease top to bottom. This gives two piles of pages. Put one pile on the other. Fold left over right and crease down length. Open again and tear down this crease. Put one pile on the other. This is the size to make a pot.
Take top sheet (which is now half width of a page) and fold over about 1" along the length. Turn that single sheet over, line-up your can and roll the paper round it. You can if you wish smear a bit of paste onto the end flap to help it stick. Finish the roll. One side of your paper should be level with the top of the can (or just slightly below the small rim on the can). The other end of the paper will hang over the can by a coule of inches or so. Take hold of that paper, twist and push into the can base. This size and method makes a firm pot.
You can get 15 pots into a standard 'A4' size seed tray. The tray will help support the pots.
The pots won't fall to bits when watered unless you start lifting and moving them, which you shouldn't need to do until planting out time.
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: caseylee on February 13, 2008, 11:48:05
thank you for that, I have been trying to make them for about a hour now and they did not work, but I am going to ty your method, hopefully I get it right lol
Linda
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: caseylee on February 13, 2008, 12:14:35
def works I managed to make quite a few out a cheap newspaper, brilliant idea thank you
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on February 13, 2008, 13:37:15
A few more pic's might make things clearer....Note how to cut the tin. One end is opened as normal, the other end is opened sideways on using a 'normal' tin opener but so that the rim on that side of the can is removed. Any sharp bits inside the can can be flattened with the back of a spoon.

Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: caseylee on February 16, 2008, 17:15:44
I just want to say thank you for all the pictures on how to make them.  I am very bored at night when the kids are in bed and have made tons of them, and they ahve saved me buying the peat pots like I usually do.  My friends and n/bours always buy newpapers so I have a constant supply.  We have even made different sizes,and I have planted my onions in them to get themn started.
Thank you again
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on February 16, 2008, 21:04:20
If you never buy a plastic pot again then it's been a worth-while posting. Good on you! Start rolling... :D
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: debster on February 16, 2008, 21:06:51
thank you kenkew very well illustrated i think even i could do that lol watch this space,
i suppose smaller tins would make smaller pots  ;D
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on February 16, 2008, 21:11:42
Sure would, Deb's. Some people use jam jars but you really need both ends open for easy extraction. (And thats a big word tonight!)
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: debster on February 16, 2008, 21:12:46
perfick!!! :-*
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on March 02, 2008, 14:25:07
Mini Paper pots: Ideal where seeds are limited and you need to transplant without disturbing other seedlings.
Same as using a tin can but here it's a photo canister.
Paper size;
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Fold over one long side.
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Turn paper over
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Canister with bottom cut out
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Roll up with folded edge touching lip of canister
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Tuck paper into base
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There you have it
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Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: caseylee on March 02, 2008, 14:29:26
I didden't think of using a canister I wanted smaller ones, I was using a loo roll, excellant idea. Would the smaller ones be ok for starting carrots in
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on March 02, 2008, 14:56:43
Carrot seed is so small I've always mixed them with fine sand and sown direct. The only thing against that of course is that you need to thin out and thinning can attract carrot fly. I usually pull a handful of small carrots which are just about big enough to wash and eat. Pulling a handful rather than thinning individually helps against spreading the aroma.
Planting seeds in these small pots is a possible. If I were to do it I'd sow 3/4 seeds to a pot and thin to leave the strongest one for planting out.
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: tomatoada on March 02, 2008, 15:34:12
My tabloid newspaper is only 12" wide so it only gives me 6" when halved.
I have put some thick tape round the "raw" end as a safety precaution.
Otherwise many, many thanks for taking the trouble  to explain.
I am still trying.  Have given myself an E for effort so far.
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: caseylee on March 02, 2008, 15:39:04
I use the paperpots for everyhting now, they are wonderful, I am so bored inthe evenings so I make hundreds of them, I have made my boys 50 each and they are going to sow the carrots in them ( trying to tach them hom to use one seed as a time) and then wait for them to be a bit bigger and plant them in the lottie
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on March 02, 2008, 20:08:57
Quote from: tomatoada on March 02, 2008, 15:34:12
My tabloid newspaper is only 12" wide so it only gives me 6" when halved.
I have put some thick tape round the "raw" end as a safety precaution.
Otherwise many, many thanks for taking the trouble  to explain.
I am still trying.  Have given myself an E for effort so far.
Tape isn't really a good idea. It doesn't breake down in the soil. You'll find that as your seedlings develope roots they will hold the soil in the pot. Just don't lift the pots out of the tray until planting out time.
As an extra, you could put a bit of wallpaper paste on the final wrap.
Ken.
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on March 02, 2008, 20:14:18
Quote from: caseylee on March 02, 2008, 15:39:04
I use the paperpots for everyhting now, they are wonderful, I am so bored inthe evenings so I make hundreds of them, I have made my boys 50 each and they are going to sow the carrots in them ( trying to tach them hom to use one seed as a time) and then wait for them to be a bit bigger and plant them in the lottie
Sweet-peas are a great starter for kids. Easy to handle, easy to sow and give good fast results.
I always sow 2 to a pot, and I alwasy get at least one to grow....usually both.
Don't soak, just push into the compost with a pencil about a half inch and water. Don't water again until the compost is starting to look a bit dry. Usually about an egg-cup a day should be fine.
Ken.
(I have a few hundred left over from seed I collected last year and already have around 50 popping up!)
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on March 04, 2008, 18:31:46
Film pots ready to go.

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Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kt. on March 04, 2008, 22:30:23
Here is the step by step video guide. Just found it tonight.

http://www.ehow.com/video_1745_create-seed-starting.html
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on March 05, 2008, 13:40:20
If you don't mind me saying so, that's a good way of how not to make paper pots!

Too much paper for starters. She even says the paper won't break-down fast enough and you need to take the seedling out before planting, sort of spoils the idea of non-root disturbance. She also makes pots with very little depth and no bottom support, or at least a hole in the bottom. She also uses a glass as a former-dangerous- idea and she also had a heck of a job getting the paper off the glass.
I'll stick to my mushy-peas open ended tin.......... :D
Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on March 05, 2008, 17:01:04
A piece of plastic pipe also makes a mid-size former.
2" across and about 3" long.
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If you're a clever trousers you can cut and warm the edge.
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...and bend inwards for finger grips.
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Title: Re: Paper pots
Post by: kenkew on March 10, 2008, 11:15:32
Tried the above on out yesterday. Works a treat.

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Pic of sweatpea roots through paper pot. No problem!
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