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Title: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: caroline7758 on January 26, 2008, 16:26:16
Do they need to be rotated? I've read they will grow anywhere and also that it's hard to get rid of every trace of them, so wondered if I could be lazy and just leave a few of this year's in the ground to grow again.
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: Garjan on January 26, 2008, 16:49:43
The question is not whether you could be lazy or not! It is: do you want to put that much energy in trying to get every tuber or part thereof out of the ground?

Even if you try they will probably grow on the same place next season.
And the next and the next and the next, ad infinitum.

But on the bright side: I have not yet heard of pests or diseases building up around JA's.
So just leave them and enjoy the flowers.
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: cleo on January 26, 2008, 17:00:41
Caroline-yes you can leave them. But in my experience by about the third year you will have a forrest of runtplants.  Take some of the best tubers to replant for your crop and deal with those left behind over time
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: tim on January 26, 2008, 17:01:16
Mine have always been smallish & knobbly.

Unlike these from Lincs - 6" long!

Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: jennym on January 26, 2008, 22:26:29
You wouldn't have obtained them from SS would you Tim?
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: tim on January 27, 2008, 06:11:47
Tesco, I'm afraid. As I say, can't grow them like that myself, although I know that they did bring in a less knobbly version, by which time I had given up.
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: MrsKP on January 27, 2008, 08:00:18
sorry to jump in hijack stylee.

i was forking over a border yesterday and came across some JA tubers (yes they were SS's).  If I don't want to eat them,how do I store them for replanting up at the lottie and can I leave the rest in place ?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: BAK on January 27, 2008, 08:32:41
MrsKP,

in my experience the tubers tend to dry up out of the ground so better to leave them in the ground if you can or put them in some moist compost.

I found them when I took over my plot - it was overgrown and they must have been there for nigh on 10 years. I simply thinned them out and grew them in the same spot ... and have left a small number in each year since (4 seasons) and the crop has been good each time - all in the same spot. Having said that I am actually going to move them this year.

Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: MrsKP on January 27, 2008, 08:38:42
thanks muchly BAK.  a pot it is then ....... for now.

;D
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: caroline7758 on January 27, 2008, 09:20:33
Great- one less job to do, then!
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 27, 2008, 09:45:29
Leave them as long as you want, as they left their diseases behind when they were brought here, and nothing seems to affect them. They do like a nice organic mulch, and if you dig out the majority every year, the ones you leave behind have a chance to develop properly. They're actually quite easy to clear; dig out everything you can, then leave the space for tender veg. By the time you're ready to plant, whatever is left in there will have appeared, and you just dig them out individually as they come.
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: DeeBee on January 27, 2008, 10:15:37
Love the simplicity of growing the JA - whack it in, up it comes!
I'd eat more if they weren't so windy ;D (Affects OH not me, I am a delicate flower!)
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: MrsKP on January 27, 2008, 10:35:52
There's enough wind around Glasgow atm without us adding to it lmao

;D
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: saddad on January 27, 2008, 13:37:44
I'd go with Cleo's advice... they do get crowded if you don't dig them out. The Photo looks like Fuseau... a spindle shaped variety...
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: calendula on January 27, 2008, 14:45:46
what I do, apart from them eat them that is, which creates a bit of space for them to continue growing better, is to dig them up a bit just before March and pull out any small ones and chuck the bigger ones back in - they do get a bit crowded in time unless you are eating a lot of them

generally no perennial needs rotating, just tending to
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: Yuet_Lee on January 28, 2008, 19:59:33
I grew mine in tubs every year just in case it spread >:(

Tim,
I got my red ones from Tesco,
white ones given by friend!


(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/millyle/plot2007/newcoat006.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: Barnowl on January 29, 2008, 10:18:02
I think they're meant to keep ok in clamps.

Might try it with sand this year as we'll  never get  through them all before March.

Going to halve the bed since we can't find enough takers for the surplus.

Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: kippers garden on January 29, 2008, 12:14:22
Yum yum, roasted Jerusalem artichokes...we all love them (but it is a windy household)
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: Eristic on January 29, 2008, 18:05:40
Don't forget they make good soup and freezes well. That way you can have winter gales and summer breezes. ;D
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: Rob08 on January 29, 2008, 18:10:46
I have to admit, reading this thread and the previous one about the side effects of Jerusalem artichokes makes me rather reticent to try them.

It also makes me wonder what France is like to live in, as they are apparently very popular there...
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: cleo on January 29, 2008, 18:58:51
It also makes me wonder what France is like to live in, as they are apparently very popular there...

Add a whole head of garlic to the soup. Taste is great

Smoke a few Gitanes and your house will smell like the Paris metro ;D
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: Rob the rake on January 29, 2008, 20:26:58
Saw a good tip the other day. When planting your JAs line the trench with weed control fabric. If you ever need to move them, the whole lot is contained within the liner.

And the wind issue doesn't affect everyone, but when it does......

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/robtherake/Picture3.jpg)

........run for your life!
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: caroline7758 on January 30, 2008, 17:23:31
I too was very apprehensive the first time I cooked some having read the horror stories on here, but we have only ever had slight side effects, and none at all with the soup.
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: Barnowl on January 30, 2008, 18:00:36
This came up last year ...

On the wind issue (pun intended), if you have a problem don't forget to try adding asafoetida to your recipe - available from most indian supermakets.
Title: Re: Another Jerusalem artichoke question
Post by: tim on January 30, 2008, 18:22:53
Or in our spice cupboard!!

Did them today with Lemon Sauce. Great - even though I say it myself. And NO after effects. Maybe the new, longer varieties are different?