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Title: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: dandelion on January 19, 2008, 20:19:50
Saw this in Woolworths yesterday. I understand it's some sort of Kiwi and self fertile. Has anyone grown this? Is it a shrub or a climber?
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: Amazin on January 19, 2008, 21:06:07
I've got one in a pot. Here's the info I have:

Kiwi Fruit ‘Issai’ (Actinidia arguta), aka Chinese Gooseberry or Russian Kiwi is a smooth-skinned hardy kiwi closely related to the traditional kiwi fruit, but it has the advantage of a hairless skin so does not need peeling.

A very hardy kiwi (to about -15°F) suitable for a south facing garden trained along a wall/frame where the vines will grow vigorously but can be damaged at higher temperatures. A self-pollinating variety, it often bears fruit the year after planting. It is capable of pollinating other Kiwi types

Fruit is about 1.5” (4cm) long and is extremely high in vitamin C, delicious and very sweet. hardy and makes a beautiful vine, with very attractive clusters of extremely fragrant white flowers, followed by loads of small fruit with a very sweet taste.

Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: manicscousers on January 19, 2008, 21:16:01
hiya, dandelion, me being cheeky, how much was it ?  :)
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: Amazin on January 19, 2008, 23:04:35
If I recall correctly from last year,  it'll be the same size as the pomegranates, and marked at £5.99 but sold for £2.99
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: dandelion on January 20, 2008, 09:58:17
Yes, £2.99. And I'm off to buy one. Thanks for the info Amazin!
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: Amazin on January 20, 2008, 19:11:54
My Woolies today had the 'normal' Kiwi 'Jenny' as well, another self-fertile one. This is a lovely climber - the young stems are hairy and a stunning red.
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: DeeBee on January 21, 2008, 19:52:46
Thanks for the heads up, pootled down to Woolies and got me a Hairfree Kiwi........and a cranberry (apparently like marsh, which given recent weather shouldn't be too tricky) and popped into Wilkos whilst there, may have bought too many onion sets, and can you have too many currant bushes/propagator lids/balls of twine/labels/  pairs of wellies/baby wipes/ hose spray gun/assorted reduced veg seed........I houldn't be allowed out until I can learn restraint! ;D

PS any idea what I can do with the baby wipes? No baby to use them on! Hope theycan be composted. ???
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: dandelion on January 21, 2008, 19:56:25
Baby wipes are briiliant to clean things with, especially to clean anything greasy. I use them to clean my house and also to clean my hands when I've finished an oil pastel illustration.
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: DeeBee on January 21, 2008, 20:06:51
Cheers Dandelion! Everything will smell nice, wonder if you can clean plant pots with them? Dont know til you try I guess ;)
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: Amazin on January 21, 2008, 22:44:53
I always take a pack of them to the lottie to clean the muck off my hands and wipe down the handles of the tools before loading them back into the car.
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: carolinej on January 21, 2008, 22:53:33
My friend uses them to clean her leather 3 piece suite. Dont know if it is recomended, but it hasnt caused any problem with hers. I havent tried it, as mine has that black over varnish stuff on it to age it (Hope you know what I mean ::))

cj :)
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: springbok on January 21, 2008, 23:04:29
baby wipes also take red wine out of carpets, I clean my leather sofa with them too.... then buff with a duster.

They also good for cleaning little bums lol... any takers on my sons next nappy!! :)
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: Kea on January 22, 2008, 17:15:42
No thanks! Been there, done that! (the Nappy)
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: GrannieAnnie on January 22, 2008, 21:54:20
Well how about that- I must have stumbled into a group of flamin' Brits! Hi to all across the big pond! ;)

I'm in Florida and was paging through seed catalogues trying to find out info on Issai but little was given about the height. I actually thought this was a tree!  What is the vine like- does the stem wrap around other plants tightly or is it more like a clematis? Would it grow up light weight wood lattice or does it need a metal arbor? I'm tempted to buy one but need more info before taking the plunge. Also, has anyone tasted the berries?

(Two yrs ago I planted elderberries and this yr made 4 gal. of elderberry wine thinking I could buy some somewhere to know what it is supposed to taste like.  Imagine my surprise when I learned nobody sells it. so I've got 4 gallon of the stuff which is by the way, beautiful red-purple but berry berry strong!) All this an aside from issai:

One scientific article said Issai flowers produce only 30 % by itself but more than 60% if there is another vine.
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: Lauren S on January 22, 2008, 22:01:59
Hello Grannie Annie and Welcome to A4A.
We have lots of Nationalities on this forum from all over the World.
Glad you found us and joined up  ;D
Lauren  :)
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: GrannieAnnie on January 22, 2008, 22:07:34
Quote from: Lauren S on January 22, 2008, 22:01:59
Hello Grannie Annie and Welcome to A4A.
We have lots of Nationalities on this forum from all over the World.
Glad you found us and joined up  ;D
Lauren  :)
thank you kindly :)
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: Amazin on January 22, 2008, 23:14:54
Hi Granny Annie and welcome. My info says the Issai grows 'vigorously', though mine is a mere baby by comparison at present. It's a twiner, like honeysuckle or wisteria, but I'm sure with a little control and pruning it would manage on a trellis - or you could train it along wires. I understand the fruit is sweeter than the usual Kiwi. One thing I'd flag up - if you're in Florida, where I imagine it gets quite warm  ;D you might want to give it some shade.
Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
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Title: Re: Actinidia arguta "Issai"
Post by: Baccy Man on January 28, 2008, 10:33:55
The fruit is sweeter & more aromatic than a regular kiwi. The average fruit is only 1"-1.5" but you get thousands of them (up to 100lb per year). If you leave the fruit on the vine it will dry by November & the flavour changes so it tastes more like a fig. Flowers in June fruit ripens in September/October. It is self pollinating but you get a lot more fruit setting if you plant another one in the area, it will not pollinate regular kiwis only other mini hardy varieties ie: Anna, Dunbarton Oaks, Fortyniner, Ken's Red, Meyers Cordifolia.