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Title: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Miss Fenella on January 12, 2008, 21:45:32
will plant Maris Piper and pink fir again but was disappointed with the Pentland Javelin early pots - did not think they tasted of anything  ???

Anyone know a really good tasty 1st early?

PS still using my PFs - they store so well!

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Rob the rake on January 12, 2008, 22:13:22
Belle de Fontenay. They are listed as a second early in some catalogues, but I grow them as an early, they're bootiful! ;D
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Miss Fenella on January 12, 2008, 22:17:21
thanks Rob
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Tin Shed on January 12, 2008, 23:12:16
Try Accent  - they are really tasty. Got them at a Potato Fair two years ago to try and have been getting them every year.
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Jeannine on January 12, 2008, 23:30:10
I actually grow Charlottes which are a second early but I have known them just a a wee while behind Rocket and the taste is great. We don't bother with earlies anymore for that reason. I would be interested to hear of really good earlies myself XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: rosebud on January 12, 2008, 23:43:47
How early is early. How early is second early please. Thank you. Rosebud.
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: saddad on January 13, 2008, 00:04:54
Early and 2nd early are terms for how many weeks it takes to produce tubers...
Originally potatoes only make tubers in response to shortening daylength, like PFA and other "Late Mains"... this leaves them susceptible to frost and blight attacks and of course slugs!
Epicure is the best "early" (@1890) more modern varieties have been bred for speed over taste. Rocket and Swift are super fast under 10 weeks.. but taste of nothing...
Red Duke of York is a great 2nd early for jackets,
Many factors make a commercial potato variety but sadly taste isn't one of them!
;D
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: kt. on January 13, 2008, 00:07:45
Aaron Pilot.  Everytime, without fail.
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: angle shades on January 13, 2008, 06:49:21
 :) Maris Bard for me
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: cornykev on January 13, 2008, 11:07:08
Hi Miss Fenella, I have Aaron Pilot and Pentland Javelin, I hope I'm not disappointed with the Javelin, previous years I have used Accent and Foremost,and my PFA's are still going strong.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: calendula on January 13, 2008, 11:54:00
I think it would be best to say what you want from the first early - waxy salad, fluffy boiling/mash, chipping, etc as this will determine the best choice as well as flavour
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Miss Fenella on January 13, 2008, 13:48:55
eating with butter ;D

I have the Maris for everything else
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Trevor_D on January 13, 2008, 13:55:10
The problem with earlies is that they're designed to bulk up quickly; but they keep going & end up floury. Duke of York & Sharpe's Express taste great early on, but the later ones collapse into a watery mess when you cook them.

I think I've tried most earlies, and for years the one I kept coming back to was Home Guard, which tastes good and is slow to turn floury. My current favourite is Lady Chrystl which is one of the earliest and keeps its texture. I agree with saddad about Rocket & Swift! And Epicure. (Although I haven't grown it for years: must try it again.)

Probably the answer is only to grow a few earlies and eat them quickly; then move on to the 2nds, which are generally tastier and keep their taste & texture.

And potatoes behave differently on different soils. It's just a matter of experimenting and when you find one that suits you & your site, stick to it.
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: markyb23 on January 13, 2008, 14:14:04
Hi, I grew one called Concorde a couple of years ago and got pretty good results. It's a waxy potato and it grows quite big if it's left in the ground. I quite like Red Duke Of York too. I'm going to give Epicure a try, all being well. :)
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: saddad on January 13, 2008, 14:18:15
Epicure has deep eyes as well, best eaten in the skin.  They are difficult to peel before cooking because of the eyes!
;D
So impressed by this thread that I'm going to our fav. potato garden centre..
;D
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Trevor_D on January 13, 2008, 14:28:39
How early is Epicure compared to the others?

I made a major boob this year, and didn't get round to ordering my potatoes until after Christmas. So I deliberately didn't order any Lady Chrystl, guessing that they would probably arrive after I want to plant them (late February, weather permitting). Every other year I've seen them in the garden centres; this year, every other variety bar that one!!

We're off to Wisley next Sunday, but if they don't have them I might give Epicure a go. (Or I might even try both!)
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: KittyKatt on January 13, 2008, 14:30:21
I grew Swift last year and they were delicious! They also gave a good healthy crop, as well as  being very early. I think it may well be down to local soil and growing conditions as well as personal preference. I am trying them again this year so will wait and see if they do well again.
KK
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: calendula on January 13, 2008, 15:23:59
Quote from: Miss Fenella on January 13, 2008, 13:48:55
eating with butter ;D

I have the Maris for everything else

agree with rob the rake then - Belle de fontenay
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Oldhippy on January 14, 2008, 10:44:13
Quote from: saddad on January 13, 2008, 14:18:15
;D
So impressed by this thread that I'm going to our fav. potato garden centre..
;D
Which one is that SD? Anywhere near me - Nottingham?
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: antipodes on January 14, 2008, 13:32:24
This year I am trying Amandine in early, it says 80 days from sowing?? I have grown them once with a friend a few years ago and I must say they are tasty with very tender flesh. I am pretty sure you can get them in the UK.
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Stevens706 on January 14, 2008, 16:58:04
I grew Pentland Javelin last year and she who must be obeyed didn’t like the taste, Robbie on the next plot gave me some Aaron Pilot to try which she really liked so guess which I’m growing this year.
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: George the Pigman on January 14, 2008, 21:55:42
I grew Anya last year which is a cross between Pink Fir Apple and Ratte. It grew well but was a bit tasteless.
By the way the way to deal with floury potatoes is to steam them not boil them!
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Rhys on January 15, 2008, 08:39:44
Quote from: ktlawson on January 13, 2008, 00:07:45
Aaron Pilot.  Everytime, without fail.

My favourite too.
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: Barnowl on January 15, 2008, 14:05:31
Quote from: George the Pigman on January 14, 2008, 21:55:42
I grew Anya last year which is a cross between Pink Fir Apple and Ratte. It grew well but was a bit tasteless.
By the way the way to deal with floury potatoes is to steam them not boil them!

I'm really puzzled by that. I haven't actually grown them yet, but I bought some from Sainsbury's last November and we all thought they were very tasty. In fact I went ahead and ordered some Anya seed potatoes.

Perhaps they need a storage period to be at their best. I think I've read somewhere that that's true of several second earlies.
Title: Re: Reccommed Please: a really tasty first early
Post by: norfolklass on January 15, 2008, 14:10:11
my Anya were delicious, one of the best tasting of the varieties that I grew last year. but I did leave my 2nd earlies in the ground for quite a while after I cut the blighted tops off, so maybe that's why?

I grew four 1st earlies last year: Arran Pilot, Duke of York, Rocket and another one that I can't remember (Pentland Javelin maybe?), and Arran Pilot stood out as being the one that my OH and I REALLY disliked! the Rocket were slightly disappointing taste-wise, but the Duke of York were loverly, and the bigger ones made great jacket spuds :)

it must be down to soil type and growing conditions â€" I keep meaning to ask other peeps on my site which ones they grow. but as I can get to a local potato day I'm quite happy growing a few of lots of different varieties each year to find out which ones suit us best!