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Produce => Recipes => Topic started by: tim on September 11, 2007, 10:41:34

Title: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: tim on September 11, 2007, 10:41:34
...both short grain, but what is the difference? And how do you tell one from another if you lose the label? And does it really matter??
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: dandelion on September 11, 2007, 11:17:23
I imagine you can make a nice rice pudding using risotto rice, but risotto made with pudding rice may be a bit too sloppy? Haven't tried it though.
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: calendula on September 11, 2007, 11:33:03
there are many cultivars so it would depend on what you mean by 'pudding rice' as there are a lot of short grain rices and by 'risotto' I assume you mean arborio (which is only named after the town) - it all comes down to stickiness. I frequently make rice pudding with arborio - slow cooked in the aga with a pinch of cinnamon and a bit of sugar - beautiful

you could try soaking a few grains to see how sticky they are and that will give you an idea of what type maybe
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: tim on September 11, 2007, 18:14:41
By 'Pudding Rice', I mean what we've always used as such, & even Delia gives it its own heading.- Arborio, Canaroli & Vialone would be too expensive? Think I used 'pudding' today - unlabelled - & it was not a disaster.

Presumably you can't tell them apart?
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: calendula on September 11, 2007, 18:19:32
not by looking at them, maybe arborio is slightly more plump and hence slightly larger grains
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: isbister on September 12, 2007, 08:58:17
Delia has a recipe for oven cooked risotto called Oven Baked Wild Mushroom Risotto. Uses carnaroli.
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: tim on September 12, 2007, 10:42:10
Yes - saw that.  I'm just a simple Risotto chap. And all the liquid in at once.
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: Barnowl on September 12, 2007, 14:02:21
Tut, tut,  Tim - all the liquid at once? That's for a paella. ;D
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: tim on September 12, 2007, 16:18:14
Good enough for me. Very unsophisticated taste!
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: Kea on September 12, 2007, 16:48:46
I stayed at a fairly posh hotel in the lake district a few years ago and because of it's location dinner was part of the package. We had read rave reviews about the food but by the third day we were starting to dread dinner.
My husband decided to order the rice pudding for dessert on the grounds that there was little you could do badly with it.
He was wrong!

He was given a plate full of long grain rice cooked in milk!

We then told them how awful their food was........apparently no one had complained before.....ever.

I can't remember what the rest of the meals were like just that they were not just bad but weird. Gordon Ramsey would have had a field day.
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: Jeannine on September 12, 2007, 18:14:36
I  buy pudding rice and Italian rice,I think there is a differenc ecertainly in the flavours.  I also buy Japanese rice which is very sticky and I often use it  rice pudding , but I think Arborio is creamier than sticky rice.XX
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: tim on September 12, 2007, 18:36:24
Rice pudding is an art?

Just creamy moist, but brown skin?
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: calendula on September 12, 2007, 19:23:04
I think it is an art but then everyone's taste is different - I only ever make 2 kinds, one slow for 6 hours in the aga and the other an italian rx made with eggs, milk, sugar, and rice on top of the stove - both gorgeous

the slow cooked version always gets a thin skin on it and as I add cinnamon it goes a lovely colour
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: debster on September 12, 2007, 19:27:54
apparantly cheffy feels that the arborio is probably shorter and rounder and as they are both really starchy you could probably use risotto rice for rice pudding but doesnt think pudding for rissotto would not work so well
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: tim on September 12, 2007, 19:35:32
Thanks, Cheffy.

Must go & measure them!!
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: grannyjanny on September 12, 2007, 19:59:52
Has anyone tried making rice pud with coconut milk. We think it is lovely but then we can't have cows milk.
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: dandelion on September 12, 2007, 20:21:51
We make rice pudding in lots of different ways: My husband likes it oriental style, flavoured with rose water or orange water and eaten cold. I like my rice pud flavoured with vanilla or nutmeg, eaten warm with brown sugar on top. To make rice pudding I often use a mix of pudding rice and riceflakes, which gives extra creaminess. I also make a cardamom flavoured pudding using ground rice, eaten cold with hot chocolate sauce (just dark Belgian chocolate wixed with a little milk). Divine  ;D!
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: carolinej on September 12, 2007, 20:26:22
QuoteTo make rice pudding I often use a mix of pudding rice and riceflakes, which gives extra creaminess.

What a good idea ;D

cj :)
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: Palustris on September 12, 2007, 21:19:22
Quote from: grannyjanny on September 12, 2007, 19:59:52
Has anyone tried making rice pud with coconut milk. We think it is lovely but then we can't have cows milk.
We do and Sago and Tapioca. I too cannot have cow's milk.
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: debster on September 13, 2007, 01:07:04
we use half milk half evaporated milk yum yum
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: carolinej on September 13, 2007, 08:49:22
Rice pudding made with soya milk is really creamy. As are other milk puddings.

cj :)
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: Emagggie on September 13, 2007, 10:04:02
I'm printing this lot off!! Lovely ideas. The biggest row BW and I ever had was about how his Ma made her wonderful rice pud........."a tin of ambrosia and a tin of evap dear, in an enamel dish and sptinkle with nutmeg, put in the oven until browned." He refused to believe me and she had a jolly good laugh but never owned up. ::) ;D
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: tim on September 13, 2007, 12:28:15
The truth will out?

Oh, & looking back, I just LOVE gloopy Tapioca!!
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: calendula on September 13, 2007, 14:28:03
nursery food  ;D

we never really get to grow up if truth be told

I like the idea of using coconut milk, intriguing - coconut milk is nice in coffee as well
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: Emagggie on September 13, 2007, 15:40:30
Lactose intollerant here, going to try it NOW. ;D
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: Emagggie on September 13, 2007, 15:47:05
Got it here, that is soooo nice. Thanks Calendula. First white coffee I've had in years. (soya curdles in coffee).
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: calendula on September 13, 2007, 15:56:30
and if you add rum, cinnamon, nutmeg this is yummy on a cold and frosty day and actually makes a nice christmassy sort of drink but good at any time  ::)
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: tim on September 13, 2007, 16:26:08
Rice pudding? Rum, Coconut? It'll be Pina Colada next?? Very warming!
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: Emagggie on September 13, 2007, 17:09:33
Oooooh :P BW always puts a dollop of jam in his serving of rice pud, I think it spoils it.
Title: Re: Pudding Rice - Risotto Rice........
Post by: cambourne7 on September 13, 2007, 18:30:40
Quote from: dandelion on September 11, 2007, 11:17:23
I imagine you can make a nice rice pudding using risotto rice, but risotto made with pudding rice may be a bit too sloppy? Haven't tried it though.

Chef bill granger makes rice pudding with risotto rice (Arborio)
http://www.smh.com.au/news/recipes/book-extract/2006/10/30/1162056917718.html