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General => News => Topic started by: pg on September 03, 2007, 08:43:35

Title: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: pg on September 03, 2007, 08:43:35
A Nottinghamshire allotmenter seems to be happily running a garden produce business from his allotment, supplying local restaurants and and getting some good publicity:

http://www.mowdirect.co.uk/mowdirectnews/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1082

Good for him. But I was just wondering, isn't there a clause in many allotment contracts about not running a business? Perhaps Nottinghamshire's Chilwell local council is specially welcoming to entrepreneurs.
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: Emagggie on September 03, 2007, 09:23:17
Yes, there is one in ours.
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: kitten on September 03, 2007, 19:06:15
I thought there was one in our contract, but our lottie neighbour grows only strawbs and sells them to local shops to sell onto customers, so i'm guessing not then...  ::)
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: cambourne7 on September 03, 2007, 19:29:58
there is one in ours but swaps are ok :)
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: kt. on September 03, 2007, 20:44:57
Not aloud on our site. If it is a business then there are all sorts of rates to be paid. Though we do swapsies between ourselves.
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: Fork on September 03, 2007, 20:50:44
Put your surplus veggies in a box and offer the box for sale with some veg thrown in for free  ;D

Let the tax man pick the bones out of that one!
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: SueSteve on September 03, 2007, 21:25:40
At ours we are only allowed to grow veg for own consumption.
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 03, 2007, 22:45:29
A lot of rules tend to be honoured in the breach; as long as it doesn't cause a problem to anyone, I don't see why he shouldn't.
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: Trixiebelle on September 05, 2007, 15:09:01
We have a 'not for profit' clause in our contract (also in Nottingham)

I agree AND disagree with the owner of the Chilwell allotment being allowed to sell produce but I can't quite explain why at the moment  ::)

On the one hand it seems unfair that someone can make a profit out a ridiculously low rent for land when many people are wanting it for leisure/enjoyment/necessity to feed families etc.

On the other hand, it seems fair that someone with business acumen should make money by selling fresh/organic food to those who want it.

I'm sitting on a VERY TALL fence at the moment. And I'm afraid of heights!
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: Kea on September 05, 2007, 16:35:49
so is it profit if you spent the money buying seeds, tools or plants for the next crop?
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: saddad on September 05, 2007, 16:59:46
Our rules say you can't but at least two horticultural businesses ran from the site in the 50's and 60's... and one tenant has a plot full of Runner beans... nobody can eat that many...
::)
Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: RSJK on September 09, 2007, 18:34:09
I do not see what harm is being done, I sell my produce to two local shops who are glad of it ( Good local fresh veg ) better then foreign crap grown abroad and sold in supermarkets who, at the end of the day have put British growers on the scrap heap. Most of my profits go back into the allotment society I belong to and the rest subsidises my low wages.















Title: Re: Garden produce business run from allotment
Post by: djbrenton on September 12, 2007, 23:12:00
The harm in it is that commercialism can creep up on allotments and end up beyond a joke. A couple of years ago, someone posted on here that the plots along one edge of their allotments were now all reneted to the adjoining farm for growing wheat. What's the significant difference between that and growing veg primarily for sale.

The allotment act defines allotments and their use. Would it be OK for a Council to point to some fields they rent to a farmer as proof they are supplying allotments? Of course not. But how about pointing to some land rented to a market gardener? How about land designated as allotments but used for market gardening?  Imagine all the allotments in your area were taken by businesses. Would that be OK?

You see how, once you allow anything other than small scale sale of surplus, it's hard to draw a line that doesn't completely pervert the intention of providing allotments.
Shouldn't people who want to run businesses pay commercial rents?