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Title: Sweetcorn
Post by: lin on August 27, 2007, 00:28:14
I am so pleased... I have never planted these before and ate my first one today!Apparently I planted them wrong, should have been quite close together and I left about 2' between. I waited till the feathery bits (not very technical) that hang out of the top turned brown then picked one.

The seeds were Bodacious F1 and the one I had today was the absolute best, sweetest corn I have ever, ever tasted, so these go on the "grow every year" list from now on. And I shall be watching the others to pounce when the hairy bits go brown!!
Lin
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Tora on August 27, 2007, 09:21:01
Awww well done! I'm growing sweetcorns as well. I tried last year and failed dismally but this year they are looking good. Hopefully I will be tasting my first home-grown sweetcorns soon. Can't wait to harvest them! ;D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: saddad on August 27, 2007, 10:25:07
Nothing beats it... fresh corn... MMMMMMMMMMm
;D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: tim on August 27, 2007, 10:29:28
We're getting a lot of 'false cobs' this year.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: SnooziSuzi on August 27, 2007, 10:32:51
Quote from: tim on August 27, 2007, 10:29:28
We're getting a lot of 'false cobs' this year.

How so, Tim? 
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Cuke on August 27, 2007, 12:29:30
Well done!

We've eaten all our sweet corn already, so I'm very envious to hear some people are only starting as I miss it now it's all eaten! lol ;)

Just dug the plants out this morning actualy, think I'll be replacing it with some spinich tomorrow :)
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Stevens706 on August 27, 2007, 12:55:07
Tim you must tell  - what is a false cob??

This is the first time I have grow sweetcorn
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Mrs Ava on August 27, 2007, 18:57:09
I still have lots to come and yes, there is nothing quite as sweet and juicy as those freshly picked cobs.  Number one son can't get enough of them.  I don't think I will have any to freeze this year as he will eat 2 at each sitting!
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Rosyred on August 27, 2007, 19:00:40
Mine no good this year :( they are too small for this time of the year.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on August 27, 2007, 19:35:58
Mine are nonexistent; the floods did for them.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: green sleeves on August 28, 2007, 01:01:36
I am waiting of mine to ripen,  I have a mixture of I think ovation F1 and a local seed given to me by a fellow allotmenter. they have growen to about 5' ans seem to have fairly fat cobe , The locals told me the trick was to have a good mix of rotted manure when planting and during the growing season keep them well watered when they get to about  3' and give them a boost by topping the soile with more manure. Cobb tails havent turned brown yet but I will let you know how they turn out. Weather here in Belfast has been rotten and most of my other crops have rotted or shot but the corn has seemed to thrive in the wet conditions. just need to get a few weeks of sun to fatten them out (HOPE)!
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: theothermarg on August 28, 2007, 20:57:22
yes tim i thought it was funny so many cobs were forming got tassles all over the place but they are not swelling however the top ones are and most of mine have bottles on them have picked one and altho not quite ripe was delicious the others are ok in their bottles not mouldy not covered in earwigs and unlike the plot next to me not ate by anon nibblers
marg teeny bit smug but this could change
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: carolinej on August 28, 2007, 21:54:18
I have some in the garden and some in the lottie. The garden ones are about 5 ft tall, with 2 cobs per plant, not yet ripe. On the lottie, the plants are still about 1 ft tall, but have flower things at the top. No cobs though, and I am not expecting much. I wondered if the difference could be that the 6 ft fence around the garden sheltered those plants from the worse of the cold weather?

I will be happy just to get a few cobs, as it wasnt looking good for any of the plants a month ago!

cj :)
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: silverbirch on August 28, 2007, 21:56:43
I've got decent sized cobs, and well pollinated, just not ripe yet.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: green sleeves on August 31, 2007, 00:09:13
Maybe this is worth more investigation but  talking to the more seasoned allotmenters the mild winter and the amount of rain we have had over here has helped develop the corn. There are different parts of the plant growth cycle which require  certain conditions .  Early  development requires the  warmth to grow, I  had grown mine  in plastic bottles until they were 12" high ( pending on bottle height used ).  after that they need warmth until 3' and then lots of water  until they get to full height. Again they need warmth and lots of water to fill out the corn. the season has done this for us up to now but need the sun to fill out the cobs. Phantom cobs  they reckon is due to lack of water at the right part of the growth cycle .Don't want to start an east / west rift but has any one got any thoughts on this!
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Pumper on August 31, 2007, 12:05:16
Lin mentioned that she left too large a gap between the plants, and I left about 18 inches or so with mine. How close *should* they be when planting out?

Also, I intend putting just about all my stuff in 4 foot squares with a 2 foot gap between the squares. That will leave stacks of room for getting in amongst the stalks rather than trying to squeeze between rows. Good/Bad idea? Vote now  ;D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Lady of the Land on August 31, 2007, 17:54:24
I have 16-18" inbetween- book says 18". Mine and many others on plot have been devastated by badgers. When neighbours whoose sweetcorn were ahead of mine were eaten I should have put chicken wire around area, didn't get around to it and did not believe they would do so much damage - last year only a couple were eaten and two plants trampled on.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: green sleeves on August 31, 2007, 23:40:34
I planted mine about 16" apart. I started then in the shed in Feb and when there were 5 leafs on them planted them out with plastic bottles over them and fleece for the first few weeks. Removed the bottles  in May, by then the plants were the full height of a 2 ltr bottle. Used lots of manure to start and gave them a second feed with manure in July. Guy next to me planted his in late Jan using the bottles and fleece and his are far more advanced, his thinking that if it goes wrong that you still have time to replant. By July his  plants were full height and cobs were well advanced. No Badgers only the 2 legged rodents to worry about here!
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: theothermarg on September 01, 2007, 18:38:49
here is the result of putting a slit bottle over the swollen cobbs to protect them from anon nibblers (prob 4 legged) have just eaten the untouched cobb 10/10
marg
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: sawfish on September 01, 2007, 19:15:43
far too awful a summer for any sweetcorn for me this year. Hugely dissapointing.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: debster on September 01, 2007, 19:23:42
is it correct that they are sweetest if picked early in the morning as the plant during the day converts the sugars to starch ?
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 01, 2007, 23:33:38
Same here. They never recovered from the floods.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: real food on September 02, 2007, 19:09:20
My sweetcorn in Glasgow is coming along nicely, though could be a couple of weeks later than usual. For more Northern locations, a quick maturing variety such as Swift, is best.
I am sure that the sweetness of cobs has nothing to do with when it is picked during the day. What is really important is that it is cooked as soon as possible after picking.
I am amazed how early some people are sowing their corn. I do not sow until April, so that they do not have to suffer too many cold winds.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: valmarg on September 02, 2007, 19:47:06
Quote from: debster on September 01, 2007, 19:23:42
is it correct that they are sweetest if picked early in the morning as the plant during the day converts the sugars to starch ?

Not entirely true, to my understanding.

When picking sweetcorn, you should have the pan of boiling salted water ready for when you have  harvested the cobs.

Pick the cobs, strip off outer husks, and boil for a few minutes.  Dredge with melted butter, and season with freshly ground black pepper.

Yummmy, slurp.

valmarg
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: Barnowl on September 02, 2007, 23:04:58
I thought salt in the water made peas beans etc tougher - is that not true for sweetcorn?
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: tim on September 03, 2007, 10:46:04
Speed is my priority, too.  But others I know put them in the freezer, leave them a year, & then say how good they are!!
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: cornykev on September 03, 2007, 16:25:09
I never put them in salt water but then I hardly ever use salt, the sugar is meant to turn to starch as soon as you pick them, thats why people have the pan boiling ready, I put mine in the microwave, 20 Min's from the plant to mouth just remembered I have one in the fridge so I'm going to cook and smother in butter now.  :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D :P :-*
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: valmarg on September 03, 2007, 19:07:33
Quote from: Barnowl on September 02, 2007, 23:04:58
I thought salt in the water made peas beans etc tougher - is that not true for sweetcorn?

Not in my experience.  Always use slightly  salted water for cooking veg.  It was what granny taught me.

valmarg
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: real food on September 03, 2007, 21:23:07
I do not use salt either, as I think it takes away from the sweetness.
When the sweetcorn is semi-cooked for the freezer, this stops the clock for any reduction in the sweetness. When you take the cob out of the freezer and cook it, the sweetness is still there to enjoy.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: cornykev on September 04, 2007, 14:55:52
I was transplanting some beetroot yesterday when I heard a rusterling and when I looked there was a rat stripping a cob like nobodys buisness, barstard threw me hand fork at it, lousy shot though, I put some netting around it but shouldn't have bothered because the buggers can get in anywhere.  >:( >:( >:( :'(
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: theothermarg on September 04, 2007, 21:24:11
Quote from: cornykev on September 04, 2007, 14:55:52
I was transplanting some beetroot yesterday when I heard a rusterling and when I looked there was a rat stripping a cob like nobodys buisness, barstard threw me hand fork at it, lousy shot though, I put some netting around it but shouldn't have bothered because the buggers can get in anywhere.  >:( >:( >:( :'(
maybe you should try cut up bottles too it really is working perhaps rats are my anon nibblers
marg
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: cornykev on September 05, 2007, 19:06:05
I'm on my way now to give it a go.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: cornykev on September 05, 2007, 20:33:38
Bottles are on Marg, even if you have some disbelievers it seems to work for you so good luck girl, the rat has gorged on five cobs now so what have I got to lose, picked a couple of cobs while I was over there, I am eating one as I speak, got to go the butter's dripping all over the keyboard.  :P ;D ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: debster on September 05, 2007, 21:25:52
had my first corn tonight sadly had to share it with hubby and parrot but it was gorgeous just steamed and eaten as it was yum yum
Title: Re: Sweetcorn
Post by: green sleeves on September 05, 2007, 23:06:28
 ;D
We picked our first 4 cobs , boiled with no salt and covered with butter. Sweet and tastey but last  few rows were white so will leave it  for another few weeks to fatten up , Interested in the fact  that there were different varieties developing better  in different parts of the country. Can any one advise  what suites more northern climes where the temp is  a few deg lower than Mid and South England.
???