......but do you?, flowers from may to the first frost. :)
			
			
			
				No, but it looks lovely... my first guess was one of the red Passifloras but too woody, unless it is growing through a laurel of some kind!
 ;D
			
			
			
				It's lovely! Is it a magnolia of some kind?
			
			
			
				Mmmmm......no. :)
			
			
			
				Is it maybe one of the multitude of Azaleas/Rhododendrons (same family)?
			
			
			
				No :)
			
			
			
				How about calycanthus occidentalis (Californian allspice).
According to my RHS A-Z of Garden Plants it is fully frost hardy.
valmarg
			
			
			
				Quote from: valmarg on August 17, 2007, 13:00:22
How about calycanthus occidentalis (Californian allspice).
According to my RHS A-Z of Garden Plants it is fully frost hardy.
valmarg
Correct  ;D and yes it is fully frost hardy, and is allways smutherd in flowers, doesn't mind being pruned back hard. I grew mine from seed about 9 years ago from Chiltern seeds. ;D
			
 
			
			
				froglegs, I first came across it when I took a snap of a plant in a garden on Jersey about 20 years ago.  I originally thought it was a magnolia (from the shape of the flowers).  It is a 'little' beaut!!
valmarg
			
			
			
				That's lovely ... does it have a scent ????
			
			
			
				Want one! That's a lovely thing and really earns its keep, doesn't it? Any other colours, btw?
			
			
			
				If yours seeds, I would not mind a few. It is a beautiful plant. 
			
			
			
				Sorry Ace I've never got any seed from it. :'( i don't think it is self fertile.
			
			
			
				Alishka sorry don't know if it comes in different colours
Flowerlady both foliage and flowers have a strong spicy scent which you like(i don't!) or ya don't. :-\  But if its scent ya after at this time of the year let me recommend Clerodendrum Bungei with its deep rose- pink flowers that just fill my garden with a perfume to rival any rose.
			
			
			
				Nice if you have plenty of room, I spent a lot of last winter clearing this stuff from a garden as it is a bit of a thug and spreads easily. 
			
			
			
				Quote from: froglegs on August 22, 2007, 20:12:13
Sorry Ace I've never got any seed from it. :'( i don't think it is self fertile.
So the flowers never turn into actual allspice berries?
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: ACE on August 23, 2007, 06:52:35
Nice if you have plenty of room, I spent a lot of last winter clearing this stuff from a garden as it is a bit of a thug and spreads easily. 
It throws up the odd sucker but i would not call it a thug.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Barnowl on August 23, 2007, 10:27:47
Quote from: froglegs on August 22, 2007, 20:12:13
Sorry Ace I've never got any seed from it. :'( i don't think it is self fertile.
So the flowers never turn into actual allspice berries?
No never had berries.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: froglegs on August 23, 2007, 18:43:25
Quote from: ACE on August 23, 2007, 06:52:35
Nice if you have plenty of room, I spent a lot of last winter clearing this stuff from a garden as it is a bit of a thug and spreads easily. 
It throws up the odd sucker but i would not call it a thug.
If you had cleared as much as I had to, I bet you would. But on reflection the garden I was clearing had suffered from a lot from an inexperienced gardener/handyman for a few years and he had let it get out of hand. The area I cleared was  big enough for a full size croquet lawn.
			
 
			
			
				It's not a game we play in Nottingham, so how big is that then ma duck.
			
			
			
				Oh Argh then lessee, The one I did was  abaht 120 tippy toe steps one way and 75 bloody gert steps the other.