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Title: green manures
Post by: stig on August 12, 2007, 12:03:39
now the flood waters have receeded im going to green manure the lot .
any one have any preferences?
also any advise on good cheap suppliers as im going to need a lot of seed !
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: JimmyJames on August 13, 2007, 16:19:12
I went for Phacelia on the advice of a fellow forum user (search on Phacelia should show up the thread).

I opted for Phacelia tanacetifolia.

Had a little trouble sourcing them at first.  Went to my local big DIY store where lots of seeds are sold.  Asked the assistant about green manure and got a very blank look!

Finally found some on ebay.  IIRC i paid £1.49 per pack, and postage was less than a pound (nearer 50p).

Assuming trade links are acceptable in this forum, here is the seller's shop: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Alchemillas-Garden (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Alchemillas-Garden)

Worth a try.  I have planted a small section with them as I wanted to see what they looked like as seedlings so I didnt weed them!!  Now they have started to grow I will sew them across a few of my beds in prep for next year.

oh and btw,  the pack says it is enough for 5 square meters, so I bought 4 packs.

James
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: manicscousers on August 13, 2007, 16:40:55
we've done our main potato bed with phacelia..its just coming up to flower now, will let the bees have a go before hoeing it in, cover with cardboard and cover with weed control for winter, it's for squash next year  ;D
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: Froglegs on August 14, 2007, 10:14:34
I find Buckwheat good as it grows that fast the weeds don't stand a chance, the incests love the flowers and after just chop it down n dig it in..job done. :)
Get mine from The Organic Gardening catalogue.
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: Rose.mary on August 14, 2007, 13:24:46
I used Ryegrass and Winter Tares last year as they will over winter. I also sow Phacelia ever year as it will fit in with any rotation you have.
I always leave a few Phacelia to flower as it attracts hundreds of bees and then I let it go to seed and collect them for following year. I have only ever had to buy one lot of seed and have given loads away.

Rosemary
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: saddad on August 14, 2007, 18:28:07
I can never get Buckwheat to grow... what on earth am  doing wrong!
:-[
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: Rose.mary on August 14, 2007, 18:50:58
Could be mice. I am sure they wait for me to scatter my seeds and just stock up for winter.

Rosemary
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: mc55 on August 14, 2007, 20:36:55
I've got Lucerne (Alfalfa), Buckwheat, Fenugreek, Agricultural Lupins (Lupinus Angustifolius) and Phacelia.  All are currently growing, except for the lupins (too late to try I think this year).  The Phacelia has quite an impressive growth rate and can be sown for another couple of months.  So far as I am aware, none of them interfere with rotation plans.  I got my seeds from the Organic Gardening - will use them again.
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: Lillypad on August 14, 2007, 20:49:11
I've just ordered phacelia, winter tares and rye from Kings Seeds. I've used phacelia overwinter before and when I came to chop it down, it was as though it was a 5* hotel for snails! Easy to pick them off for a method of dispatch of your choice.

Kings Seeds are the suppliers of the bulk orders for my allotment association, but I like to order a few things direct from them so that I get their catalogue.
Title: Re: green manures
Post by: stig on August 16, 2007, 10:22:13
Marshalls have mustard seed at 2.40 per pack supposed coverage of 100SQ foot any good?