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Title: Have anyone's labels survived?
Post by: caroline7758 on July 10, 2007, 19:09:48
I labelled my plants with strips of venetian blind and a "permanen" marker pen. they are all blank after this rain. if anyone's have survived I'd love to know what they used!
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Post by: Si D on July 10, 2007, 19:42:55
Not mine - used the free plastic labels that came with the seeds: all have mysteriously dissappeared  ???
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Post by: Deb P on July 10, 2007, 19:50:08
I'm using P Touch printed labels this year, blue printed ones have faded to nothing, black print ones are fine....... ;D
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Post by: caroline7758 on July 10, 2007, 20:21:49
Can you tell me more about P Touch, Deb?
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Post by: grawrc on July 10, 2007, 20:22:58
I always have problems with labels and would really welcome a solution if anyone has one.
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Post by: manicscousers on July 10, 2007, 21:12:53
our bits of cut up plastic milk bottles, marker penned have survived.. :)
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Post by: Mrs Ava on July 10, 2007, 22:26:30
Black permanent ink on regular labels is okay, altho they do fade over time, pencil for me lasts longest.  Red or blue permanent ink disappear overnight!
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Post by: asbean on July 10, 2007, 22:31:56
I only use labels for seeds, when the leaves have formed I know what it is.  For seeds sown direct we use permanent marker on balsa wood.
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Post by: Jeannine on July 10, 2007, 22:51:37
Mine have survived written with a Sharpie pen,mind you most have them are several lotties away . !! XX Jeannine
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Post by: Kepouros on July 10, 2007, 23:21:47
I use pieces of old aluminium salvaged from gale wrecked greenhouses and written on in black marker pen.  I cover the marking with a strip of waterproof scotch tape which sticks on forever (it even `mends` broken greenhouse panes permanently).  Of course, I have to keep growing the same things every year.
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Post by: tricia on July 11, 2007, 00:07:11
I made markers with a Brother P Touch labelling machine I bought at Lidl for about 13 quid. I used black on white and all the labels are fine - ran out of tape and bought a second one on E-Bay (much cheaper!). Next year I shall only need to make a few of different tomato varieties (won't be growing some of the plum types from this year as I'm not very happy with them!) All the others will be reusable so the investment was well worth it.

Tricia
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Post by: Deb P on July 11, 2007, 09:31:00
Quote from: caroline7758 on July 10, 2007, 20:21:49
Can you tell me more about P Touch, Deb?

OH bought me mine as a Christmas pressie the year before last, it is still using the same batteries! I have found using the narrow tape is the best and fits on normal sized plastic labels nicely. I keep my labels from year to year and they are in good condition to reuse if I grow the same things, easy to peel off and replace the label if not. Useful if you have several pots of the same thing, just keep printing out as many labels as you want. eBay is where I get my replacement tapes from too, they are not really cheap either. :-\

Downsides? Well it probably does take a bit longer to do each one, peel it off and stick on than writing with a pencil directly on a label, and you have to stick the labels on to something; I don't put mine direct on pots as I pot things on quite quickly usually, most useful for things that stay in pots, like peppers and indoor toms. Also look good on plant sale donations! I have some bigger T shaped labels I use down the plot that I have stuck the printed labels to, but to be honest I don't like the look of them , it makes it look bit like a showgarden so I've stopped using it for those now!

There are also the resource implications, yes I will be reusing all those that I can, but I do like to try different things so it probably isn't the most environmentally friendly of approaches......OH and kids do like to use it for labelling their stuff as well, so it is useful for them too... ;D
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Post by: debster on July 11, 2007, 09:32:12
i used plastic from a margarine tub written on with a cd marker pen and theyre pretty good
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Post by: Emagggie on July 11, 2007, 09:44:10
Quote from: manicscousers on July 10, 2007, 21:12:53
our bits of cut up plastic milk bottles, marker penned have survived.. :)
I did exactly the same and they are still ok, butI confess to marking my seed labels with felt tip and of course the writing disappeared into the condensation under the lid. Sirry Irriot ::)
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Post by: caroline7758 on July 11, 2007, 17:55:43
Mine was a Sharpie pen, too, Jeannine. Maybe it's the surface I'm writing on that's a problem.
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Post by: Tinkie_Bear on July 11, 2007, 19:06:25
Amazed to find that my lolly sticks with permanant marker pen have survived, the shop brought ones with the permanant marker on it have gone blank but the ones with pencil writing on them are still fine (apart from the one I cut in half when harvesting cut and come again leaves - ooops)
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Post by: Larkshall on July 19, 2007, 19:28:31
Blimey!!

With all these problems, I give up. No not really, I have a last idea that might last. Use my laser printer to print an A4 page of labels cut them all to size, arrange them on an encapsulation sheet then heat seal and cut labels out with 2mm seal all round.
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Post by: Multiveg on July 19, 2007, 19:38:11
GardenAntics was telling me about labels - I've been mastering writing backwards so I can make labels using old drinks cans. What happens is that the writing is embossed so won't get washed away with rain. He sells the instructions as well as sheets of metal for making labels.
He was telling me about plastics - there is a chemical in them on the surface or something that goes in sunlight or something - can't remember exactly, but it explains why pen on plastic "proper" labels fades. I think he said to give em a scrub before writing.
However, some small 3-4ft high creatures like removing labels.....!
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Post by: Paulines7 on July 19, 2007, 20:55:52
I haven't found a marker pen yet that doesn't rub off over the course of the growing season.  I now have a Dymo label printer........pinched the idea from my niece Prink 13.   I stick them onto my own labels made from plastic milk bottles.
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Post by: twinkletoes on July 20, 2007, 08:28:29
Brilliant idea Larkshall - going to try this one today.  Doesn't the damp get in where you cut the label down to size though?
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Post by: pye on July 20, 2007, 20:39:44
Lo-tech works best for me, pencil on white plastic labels. Lasts all season.

Easy to clean off with a rubber too, so they can be re-used.
Title: Re: Have anyone's labels survived?
Post by: Larkshall on October 07, 2007, 19:34:21
Quote from: twinkletoes on July 20, 2007, 08:28:29
Brilliant idea Larkshall - going to try this one today.  Doesn't the damp get in where you cut the label down to size though?

No, cut each label to size then space them out on the plastic sheet (about 8mm apart), seal in the heated rollers and cut into separate labels with 4mm transparent border. They should last fairly well.

When I worked for the Forestry Commission in Thetford Chase, I used to signwrite the nursery labels (white painted boards 8" x 18") with the species, variety and cultural codes. A nice job, sitting at home by the fire when there was snow and ice outside.
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Post by: theothermarg on October 07, 2007, 21:59:06
going to cut up free black buckets and use tippex good a chance as any
marg
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Post by: Biscombe on October 07, 2007, 22:03:32
Dymo is the way to go here in this bright sunshine!
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Post by: ACE on October 07, 2007, 22:10:23
I get loads of treated wood battens free from our timber merchant, They use them for packing. Then I dip one end in a colour paint that is the main colour of the bed then write the plant name with a staedtler marker pen. For stuff in pots or seed trays I use a dymo label.

Before you all start shouting about treated wood, these are all flower beds and I have not had any problems, the same as I have no problems with the treated timber around my raised beds
Title: Re: Have anyone's labels survived?
Post by: star on October 07, 2007, 22:46:40
Quote from: debster on July 11, 2007, 09:32:12
i used plastic from a margarine tub written on with a cd marker pen and theyre pretty good



Exactly how I do labels Debster, they do work really well. Im so tight I scrape off the name the following year and overwrite with new titles. And its only a margerine tub ;D ;D
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Post by: lorna on October 08, 2007, 12:37:45
Just gave up on permanent markers. Daughter bought me a Dymo label writing machine. (Yes Pauline I also pinched idea from Prink when we met up!!) As a  real amateur I really need labels that you can read after planting out. Yes it does take longer than hand written labels but will keep me amused on the dark days/evenings of winter.
Lorna
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Post by: Multiveg on October 08, 2007, 15:19:56
We did so many labels. However, as many things were sown successionally, sometimes the labels didn't make it to the sowings.
Maybe if I open up the packets,  enclose a few labels and reseal/sellotape, it would increase the chance of a label ending up with the row.
The labels made out of aluminium drinks cans worked nicely (when used).
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Post by: twinkletoes on October 08, 2007, 16:31:13
I'm with Larkshall.  I use the business card template and print out on the computer and then laminate in business card shaped/size laminate pouches.  They are easy to read and will be useable time and again (I hope). 
Twinkletoes