I have access to slopps! Has anybody any experience of using them around the allotment? What would they be like as a tomato feed? Can they be used against slugs?
You obviously could use it in a slug trap. I'd be nervous of using it as a tomato feed since it'll attract the wildlife (especially slugs which love yeast) to your plants.
I'd use it as a liquid feed. I suspect it would soak in well enough not to bring the slugs in, but try it and see.
Slug traps yes, but I'm sure I saw on one of the lottie programmes someone was feeding beer to pumkins I think ??? I'm sure someone will come on here and correct me though. ;D ;D ;D
As an ex-brewery worker, I always understood that waste beer (aka ullage) was best used on onions.
valmarg
What brewery Valmarg I work in the ullage returns at my work. :P ;D ;D
It makes a good slug bait but please be careful about the trap you use as it also attracts beneficial insects
Makes fab tom feed, specially for the beef toms. Didn't know it attracted slugs but I've never found it to be a problem with toms in tubs. I used to take it home from work, much to the hilarity of the punters who were convinced i took it home to drink it...and maybe i did..... ;D
Which brewery do you work for Kev?
Not a brewery Emms its a distribution company, but we store load and deliver beer for Coors, W Spoon and Inbev (Whitbread) and I have to deal with the ullage when it comes back from the pubs, and no Emms before you say it I don't sit there all day drinking it, well not all day. ;D ;D ;D
corneykev, the brewery I worked for was Bass plc in Burton upon Trent (the then brewing capital of the universe). It was a wonderful company to work for, until Oofy Prosser sold us up the Swannee.
Bass, as a company, no longer exists. I don't think the beer is much good these days - being 'brewed under licence' by foreigners.
Sorry, I'm a Burtonian, and hate to see what has happened to the brewing industry in the town!!
valmarg
I know what you mean Valmarg it seems all the brewery's are selling up and handing it over to as you say foreigners or distribution company's like ours. Some of the blokes at our depot worked for Bass, some on the dray and still a few in the warehouse, and in working for tradeteam ten years on they are wage wise little if any better off. I have only been there for 8 years so have only known tradeteam but often you hear the storeys about the bass days, the sad thing is theres no management who come from a brewery background and they have no idea what it intails in delivering a cask or keg, have to stop there before I cry. :( :'(
Quote from: valmarg on June 21, 2007, 15:24:08
corneykev, the brewery I worked for was Bass plc in Burton upon Trent (the then brewing capital of the universe). It was a wonderful company to work for, until Oofy Prosser sold us up the Swannee.
Bass, as a company, no longer exists. I don't think the beer is much good these days - being 'brewed under licence' by foreigners.
Sorry, I'm a Burtonian, and hate to see what has happened to the brewing industry in the town!!
valmarg
I used to work for Bass, too. Based at the computer centre in West Brom, but spent a lot of my time at Burton. Happy days. The MD was known as "Pross the Boss" IIRC. ;D
To be fair to Prosser, it was government regulation that split up the breweries. The theory was that the tied trade reduced consumer choice, so breaking the tie would be A Good Thing. Of course, like so many of these well-intentioned laws, it had unintended consequences.
I assume that Marstons still brew in Burton, but I guess everything else has been swallowed up by the mighty Interbrew?
You said it, but they are now called Inbev and are getting bigger, which goverment regulation was meant to stop. ??? ??? :-X :-X :-\ :-\
Yes, Melbourne12, the blame for the collapse of the brewing industry in the UK can be firmly laid at the door of Lord Young when he was 'minded to implement the brewing orders'. I think Oofy Prosser could have handled things better. You must remember the uproar when it was suggested he take over C&CE at Sainsburys. Having made a mess of Bass/Six Continents/Intercontinental Hotels.
Based in West Brom, were you anywhere near Bass Pensions?
Marstons do still brew in Burton, but they were taken over a few years ago by Wolverhampton & Dudley Brewery (brewers of Banks's beers).
I doubt you would recognise the town these days. What used to be Bass property between High Street and Guild Street is now cinema complexes and fast food (KFC, etc) outlets. When Interbrew bought Bass the DTI made them sell off some of the market, thereby Bass in Burton is in the hands of Coors. They have even had the effrontery to rename the Bass Museum the Coors Visitor Center.
I worked at Bass in 1977 when we celebrated the bicentenary of the Company. It makes me very sad to see what has happened to it.
ANYWAY to get back to the original question, I was always taught that the best use of waste beer was to water it on to onions.
Thanks for tolerating my trip down memory lane!!
valmarg
Drink em - never waste beer me!!! ;D
I used beer to feed my Pumkin last year and it was triple the size of anyone else's on our site.
Cheers Mick I thought I heard it somewhere and Nobby we are talking beer slops out of the drip tray I'm sure if they served you that up you'd have something to say about it, Valmarg I enjoyed your trip down memory lane. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: valmarg on June 21, 2007, 19:11:08
Yes, Melbourne12, the blame for the collapse of the brewing industry in the UK can be firmly laid at the door of Lord Young when he was 'minded to implement the brewing orders'. I think Oofy Prosser could have handled things better. You must remember the uproar when it was suggested he take over C&CE at Sainsburys. Having made a mess of Bass/Six Continents/Intercontinental Hotels.
Based in West Brom, were you anywhere near Bass Pensions?
Marstons do still brew in Burton, but they were taken over a few years ago by Wolverhampton & Dudley Brewery (brewers of Banks's beers).
I doubt you would recognise the town these days. What used to be Bass property between High Street and Guild Street is now cinema complexes and fast food (KFC, etc) outlets. When Interbrew bought Bass the DTI made them sell off some of the market, thereby Bass in Burton is in the hands of Coors. They have even had the effrontery to rename the Bass Museum the Coors Visitor Center.
I worked at Bass in 1977 when we celebrated the bicentenary of the Company. It makes me very sad to see what has happened to it.
ANYWAY to get back to the original question, I was always taught that the best use of waste beer was to water it on to onions.
Thanks for tolerating my trip down memory lane!!
valmarg
At the risk of further derailing the thread, yes I knew the guy who looked after Bass Pensions at that time - Tony Douthwaite if I've remembered his name correctly. Your description of Burton is a bit horrifying - I haven't been there since I left Bass in the mid-80s. I liked Burton, and the rather grand architecture of the breweries, and the museum, and the maltings. It had a great character, not to mention great beer.
Melbourn, you are right with Tony Douthwaite as the Pensions Administrator, you may also remember David Coles, his deputy, and Colleen Draper, their secretary.
I worked as secretary to George Kelly, Director of Personnel Services, in the Group Personnel Department (before it became human resources).
It's possible our paths may have crossed.
valmarg
Ah, nostalgia! Though it isn't what it used to be. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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My mum ran pubs for M&B when i was little and then Bass later on as i think Bass bought M&B. Shame it went out of business. My fav pub is now being run by a Japanese firm. Not quite the same. Plus Bass invented the best till system ever. ;D
Thats where your boozy background comes from Emms. :P ;D ;D ;D
Yep, sorry to say but i am a PUB KID!! 8)
BM&B. Aar. I used to go up the Cape sometimes.
Valmarg,
As an 'oldfart', I remember the Bass brewery well & enjoyed a visit many, many years ago when 'coopers' still carried out the trade!
Lived downwind from M&B brewery in my youth & have loved the product since(not M&B I add, winkle piss?)
The 'Cape' Melbourne - Aar -went up there a lot - was banned from the 'The Grove' for peeshooting in the '50's?
telboy, one of my old nunkies (uncles) used to work in the cooperage at Bass. When the old wooden barrels had come to the end of their useful lives, the slats used to be sawn up into approximately 6" lengths, and sold to the locals as 'nubbins', for firewood. Hence the local expression 'nubbinhead', aka woodentop, aka thicko.
tel and melbourn, I believe the 'Cape' is no more. Cape Hill Brewery was demolished some years ago.
All very sad!!
valmarg
Another great Burton tradition was the "Burton Union System" which created the most delicious beer. I think some Bass used to be made that way, but by the time I worked there, only White Shield was still made in the Unions.
I've just had a poke about on Google, and found that Marstons Pedigree is still made that way, and that White Shield has been relaunched, still made in Burton! I must get hold of a few bottles, but I bet it doesn't have quite the same taste as the original.
I remember that it was also said that brewers tended to father daughters rather than sons, because of the amount of live yeast they consumed from tastings. I think there might even be some scientific basis in this. ;D