Hi all,
Sorry if this post is in the wrong section - I wasnt sure where to put it!....
Having just taken on an overgrown plot, the realisation is slowly sinking in that I need to spend quite a bit of money on tools!
Since moving out of my parent house and into a flat, I have had no need for garden tools, and as a result I will need to start from scratch.
I would like to ask two things if i may:
1. What are the essentials? ie - what are the 'must buy' items. I am thinking I will need to get a fork, spade, rake, hoe at the very least, but any advice here would be good.
2. Are there any websites or shops (I am located in South Hampshire) that are good value, or do second hand sales?
I am going to check out some car boot sales aswell, but not sure where the local ones are!
Im sure this seems like a very 'newbie' thing to be asking, but I would like to keep the initial outlay as low as possible as im sure you will appreciate.
TIA
James
I got S/S spade and fork from Tesco for under a tenner each, and border spade and fork for the OH to use, also in S/S for under six quid each. All have fibreglass shafts with plastic "D" handles, and so far seem to be very good.
Oh, and a S/S lawn edging knife for seven quid too.
Try your local market, if they have a (secondhand?)tool stall. I managed to get a mattock quite cheaply from ours.
have you got any cheap shops in your area: Wilkinsons, Poundland, Pound Stretcher, that kind of thing?
they're always worth a browse.
and have a look in Bargains Galore, in the General part of the forum, this is where people post info about the latest bargains to be had ;)
If you haven't already then join Freecycle for your area and place a request on the forum there.
You will be sure to find something you can use in your allotment. Somebody somewhere will be clearing out a shed or garage and have tools to spare.
Sand
There's a Wilkinsons in Portsmouth, also Fareham and Havant. Check this link: http://www.viamichelin.com/b2b2c/gbr/dyn/controller/DLAmbiguous?intMapType=1 &productId=50700&withCriteria=true&from=1234&strLocation=portsmouth&strAddress=&strCP=&Submit.x=38&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit (http://www.viamichelin.com/b2b2c/gbr/dyn/controller/DLAmbiguous?intMapType=1%20&productId=50700&withCriteria=true&from=1234&strLocation=portsmouth&strAddress=&strCP=&Submit.x=38&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit)
I go to the one in Shirley (Southampton), they have loads of gardening stuff there, plus an excellent range of tools.
I second that Sand, definately join Freecycle, you might even be able to get some plants to pop in.
Thanks everyone, I can use a route on the way home from work that will take me past Tesco, Aldi, Lidl and Wilkinsons!
I have also requested to join my local freecycle group and my app is pending.
Should be able to find some bargains :)
Thanks again
James
Keep your receipt!!
Not cheap, but I can recommend the Wolf push pull hoe, just bought it and it beats anything I have had before.
XX Jeannine
Buy cheap. Buy twice.
For anyone starting out I would recommend the car boot sale and hunt out the old but good. You will not get anything of real quality in the bargin bucket shops because quality costs. On the other hand, being expensive does not make it good either. Newcomers to this exciting sport seem to think that the nice fork and spade in Homebase for £7 ea is just as good as my tools. ;D
Garden tools should be made of forged steel (not to be confused with forge and steal), and any spade with a welded shaft is imported mild steel junk.
What do you need?
Spade, fork, rake and hoe are essential. Good quality secateurs and shears desirable. A string-line is also essential (don't hit me) but a ball of string and two sticks is just as efficient as a £60 super-duper.
Having good tools is not enough. Learn how to use them properly and treat them with respect.
I would have to agree with this, the cheapish spade I bought at Lidls bent at the first use.
However the old rusty spade that we got from a car boot sale has been absolutely invaluable and still going strong despite the amount of digging it has seen this year!
Also, sometimes the local tip has a section of old tools etc that it sells for a few quid, maybe worth looking into?
I ended up doing what I usually do! I found the bargain, and then thought for 'just' a few quid more I could have THAT one....
Tesco had 3 types. Their 'value' one (for about a fiver iirc) just looked like it was begging to be broken. They had a midrange one, which looked better but still had its fair share of plastic bits on it. This was 8 or 9 pounds.
Then i saw they had the 'finest' range (as they do with their food products). This was about £12, had a wooden handle, and looked to be better build quality. Its made of 'heat treated stainless steel', but im not sure if this is the same as forged steel.
Anyway, I was feeling quite guilty when i got home, so i was glad to see the advice here not to go for the cheapest!
I also got shears and soil rake, so now need hoe and string thing.
Getting quite frustrated now too - cant get hold of a strimmer, but hopefully will have one for this weekend. Working is so inconvenient at times!
I did consider trying a sythe, but was stumped as to where to get hold of one (to borrow) and also was fearful for my ankles! As Eristic said - knowing how to use tools is important :)
Quote from: Jeannine on June 13, 2007, 17:13:53
Not cheap, but I can recommend the Wolf push pull hoe, just bought it and it beats anything I have had before.
XX Jeannine
Is that the one with rotating stars/spikes ?
I found a grass hook / sickle useful to cut down the weeds on the 3/4 of plot that we didn't cultivate and also to cut the paths.
Quote from: JimmyJames on June 14, 2007, 09:48:58
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Then i saw they had the 'finest' range (as they do with their food products). This was about £12, had a wooden handle, and looked to be better build quality. Its made of 'heat treated stainless steel', but im not sure if this is the same as forged steel.
Anyway, I was feeling quite guilty when i got home, so i was glad to see the advice here not to go for the cheapest!
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My personal choice is Spear & Jackson Neverbend or Bulldog. Both old-fashioned forged construction, typically £25 per tool. But the S&J has a 25 year guarantee. You really can't break these tools.
But actaully we also have a couple of Tesco stainless tools - a fork and spade - that were given to us. They're actually not too bad. Stainless steel is much softer than forged steel, and will bend under hard use, but to be fair these will stand sensible usage.
We prefer S&J, but were given a set of Homebase spade, fork and rake by a friend who moved from a house to a flat, and they have been OK for the last few years.
I have an ordinary steel spade I got from Tesco's for £3, and a steel handled fork which doubles as a crowbar from the Rag Market for £5. They've both done me for years. Look around, there's no need to spend the sort of money some people are talking about.
Barnowl, the Wolf is a series of attachments that fir into a special handle I think there is one that yiou describe, but this one is called the push pull. Lokk yo Wol tools on the net and you will see the full range, it is very good XX Jeannijne
Thanks Jeannine - found it.
I bought a fork in b&q that bent, replaced it with one from wickes - very good value and strong.
Wickes stuff is pretty basic but its built for complete animals (like myself) so has to be strong. well worth checking out
Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on June 14, 2007, 22:19:55
There's no need to spend the sort of money some people are talking about.
My sentiments exactly Robert.
Well I have to disagree with you about the spending. I think sometimes there is a need to spend that much.
I paid quite a bit for my push pull hoe from Wolf. It VERY lightweight,so much so that I can pick it up in one hand and I can lift it shoulder height,I don't need to do that for weeding, but it makes the point.
I can't lift any of the other gardening tools we have off the floor without using 2 hands and even then I can't use them due to the weight and we do have some other aluminium ones.
So for me it is literally worth it's weight in gold,and I am able to hoe again, something I have been unable to do for some time.
XX Jeannine
I must admit i have tried cheap tools and found them difficult to work with but my joseph bentleys are fabulous = not top of the range but £20-30 per tool but worth it in my opinion as i get more done and dont ache so much!
If you haven't got the money you can't spend it! I had nothing when I started, and my point is that you can get perfectly adequate tools for very little. Luxury stuff can come later if and when you have it. The Victorians didn't have any of these lightweight modern tools, and it didn't inhibit them at all.
It would have stopped me..my point is that the Wolf is so light that someone with a disability like me can use it,the option being that they can't use anything.
Actually robert the victorian tools are probably better than modern day cheap stuff - last alot longer, better made, easier to use... an antique shop though will still set you back £15-20 a tool. I agree if you dont have the money you cant spend it. But would rather have 3 good tools that 1/2 dozen cheap one. All that is needed is a fork and spade and either hoe or rake in my opinion -
Going back to Jimmy's original request for 'basic/essentials', I would add a trowel. You need this to plant out what you have grown.
Melbourn12, my dad bought a 'neverbend' spade, and he complained 'it didn't bend, it snapped'.
I agree, you can buy cheap, and have to buy twice, but there are some bargains out there.
We bought a border fork from woolworths, cheaper than it would have been to replace a handle for the existing fork, where it had rotted. Years later it is still going stong.
Having been in Tesco recently, I am not a fan of their hand tools. Cheapo crappo plastic is the kindest description I can give them.
valmarg
If you're getting a trowel look for the sort with the handle welded onto the blade, they're a lot stronger. Blades can still bend though on the crappy ones.
i would also add a knife, or some kind of cutting/pruning implement. Useful for all sorts of stuff. I have a gardeners penknife and an old kitchen knife in the shed. The kitchen knife is surprisingly usefull for weeding in awkward areas!
Thanks peeps!
I will keep my eyes open for a good trowel (I agree that the ones in Tesco looked and felt as cheap as they were). The knife is another good idea. I have been on the lottie 1 weekend and already needed a knife. Ironically it was to remove the rip ties that attached the card to my new shears!
I did find a knife in the undergrowth whilst clearing, but it was more like a butter knife.
Knife and Trowel - on the list :)
I needed a knife (pocket type) also for up at the plot (opening compost sacks etc), but couldn't find one, so opted for a 10 in 1 multitool from Screwfix, at £3.99.