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Title: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: eco-friendly27 on May 25, 2007, 23:22:58
aparently the whole site used to be an orchard and these trees surround my plot. but no one has been there long enough to know what they are.
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/eco_friendly27/HPIM0342.jpg)

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/eco_friendly27/HPIM0341.jpg)

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/eco_friendly27/HPIM0340.jpg)

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/eco_friendly27/HPIM0339.jpg)

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/eco_friendly27/HPIM0337.jpg)
Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: eco-friendly27 on May 25, 2007, 23:24:12
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/eco_friendly27/HPIM0336.jpg)

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/eco_friendly27/HPIM0335.jpg)
Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: jennym on May 26, 2007, 00:16:06
Erm - the leaf looks just like silver birch, or maybe some sort of prunus, but can't see the bark clearly. It looks like a youngish tree to me, and guess that it hasn't been there more than 10 years.
Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on May 26, 2007, 02:40:20
Difficult to say just from your pics.


My thoughts are one of the many ornamental prunus trees, a hornbeam, or an alder.

  I presume its deciduous.
  Are the leaves shiny, smooth, rough, soft ?
  Do the leave have a flat margin (ie lay perfectly flat on a flat surface), or an undulating margin (edges rise and fall when on a flat surface ?
  Are the underside of the leaves pale or white, are they hairy?
  Are the leaf stalks in pairs, or do the alternate along the branch ? 
  Did it flower? Was it in late March/early April ?
  Are there any 'fruits' (tiny apples or plum shapes)  appearing where the flowers were?
  Does it have 'fruit' or catkins ?
  Do the leaves colour in autumn?

Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: vegging out on May 26, 2007, 02:57:35
I think they are elm,Ulmus procera,going by the leaf,branch and twig form.Also in the 4th pic down a couple of trees are dead/dying from what is probably dutch elm disease.Are there any old stumps about because if they are elm they have more than likely regenerated from the roots.Also,look out for odd dead/dying branches or brown leafs,I think this is just visable in your 1st pic in the bottom right.
A sure way to tell is to cut off a branch of an infected tree and you will see a black ring just inside the cambium layer. :)
Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: OllieC on May 26, 2007, 09:38:37
I'm with Vegging - looks like Elm. The dead ones are at the younger end of when the beetles start to move in, but could easily be DED. Prolific sucker producers, Elms, as my pond liner will confirm (from the neighbours tree growing through it!).

Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: saddad on May 26, 2007, 09:50:00
If they were in the prunus family eg damsons etc then somebody would have noticed fruit by now so probably elms as people suggest!
::)
Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: Si on May 26, 2007, 22:13:03
Looks a bit like a mullberry to me.
Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: asbean on May 26, 2007, 22:19:46
Could be hornbeamish, or maybe a nut?   :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: does anyone know what these trees are?
Post by: OllieC on May 27, 2007, 09:34:11
see if this works - link may be a bit large...

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.keele.ac.uk/university/arboretum/photos/wychelm.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.keele.ac.uk/university/arboretum/trees/wych_elm.htm&h=324&w=300&sz=35&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=n8d5VTVOQQ-R0M:&tbnh=118&tbnw=109&prev=/images%3Fq%3Delm%2Bleaf%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DHPEB,HPEB:2006-39,HPEB:en%26sa%3DN
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