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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Barnowl on May 22, 2007, 13:49:00

Title: Container spuds
Post by: Barnowl on May 22, 2007, 13:49:00
Plenty of leaf - I just hope there are actually some spuds in there.....
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: froglets on May 22, 2007, 13:54:31
My experience last year as a first timer using tubs, was that I got acres more foliage than I ever got in the ground.  yeild was about the same though as long as you keep them watered.
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: antipodes on May 22, 2007, 14:01:54
I have a few in a great big black bin! They are bigger than the ones in the ground, funny isn't it?? They are flowering so hopefully in a couple of weeks I will be able to chuck the bin over and see what I get. God I hope it works, that would be something to show my dubitative allotment neighbours, ha ha ha.
I used a few leftovers, some red Roseval and some Sirtema, think I might have 5 or 6 plants growing in a mixture of a few things, soil, compost, manure and lots of straw mulch. It's great fun.
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: JRP on May 22, 2007, 23:31:15
:) Hi, I've got 450 plastic containers on my allotment plot to empty out, mother nature wont let you down as long as you do give them just enough water, not to much or they might go soft and burst.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Vegemite on May 23, 2007, 08:55:18
how do you know what just enough is? now i am worried?
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: manicscousers on May 23, 2007, 14:46:21
vegemite, if you've got holes in the bottom, they should be ok  :)
we've been growing spuds in containers for years and, as long as you keep them watered in dry spells, they seem to do alright  ;D
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: caroline7758 on May 23, 2007, 19:19:22
Mine are in a compost bag & the leaves are about 3 ft out the top now! Not quite sure how to check for spuds- just stick a hand in, or make a slit in the bottom of the bag?
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: asbean on May 23, 2007, 20:10:16
We've got one of those plastic orange thingys, we put 5 in that, plus half a doz in black buckets.  We'll empty one this weekend, it's Swift, not a fantastic spud, but it is usually ready in 10 weeks, and it's 10 weeks since we put them in.
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Marymary on May 23, 2007, 21:06:41
Quote from: caroline7758 on May 23, 2007, 19:19:22
Mine are in a compost bag & the leaves are about 3 ft out the top now! Not quite sure how to check for spuds- just stick a hand in, or make a slit in the bottom of the bag?

The technical term is to 'fertle'.  Stick your hand in the soil & have a gentle feel !  ;D
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Vegemite on May 23, 2007, 21:28:14
oh i fancy a fertle! sounds like fun :P
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Cat on May 27, 2007, 20:12:34
Hi,

I'm growing Maris Peer and the leaves are about 2 foot out of the containers, with flower buds on them.  The flower buds don't seem to want to open, some of them have even fallen off, is this a problem?

Should I check to see if there are any potatoes ready now?  Or when should I check?

Thanks

Cat
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: caroline7758 on May 27, 2007, 20:25:08
Mine were the same, Cat. I found a few decent sized ones when I rummaged around so decided to empty the lot, but was disappointed with the yield. Considering the first earlies at the allotment are starting to flower now, my idea of getting some extra early ones from the bag wasn't really worth the effort- won't bother next year. Mind you, the bottom third of the compost in the bag was very dry, so guess that might account for the poor crop.
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Cat on May 29, 2007, 16:56:55
Caroline,

Thanks for the reply  :)

Going to give it a couple more weeks, then rummage!

Cat
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: cornykev on May 29, 2007, 18:11:56
Tipped a container today, not a great yield but OH will be having new potatoes with fresh mint with her dinner. ;D ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: manicscousers on May 29, 2007, 18:33:09
got enough for 2 meals for both of us  ;D
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: flower Power on May 29, 2007, 18:47:55
snap
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: saddad on May 29, 2007, 19:37:43
I have some Epicure in black dustbins that are about 3' above the rim... It amy be a dialect thing but we Firkle!
;D
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: cornykev on May 29, 2007, 20:44:40
Sorry Scousers she weighed them out for her next few meals maybe next time.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: JRP on May 30, 2007, 11:12:16
Hi ALL,may I share my concerns with you about growing food to eat in containers, even though I'm only growing things in plastic containers my self.
One is does any body know if the plastic is getting into the food when you use anything other than whats been past as OK,  like my milk or drinks containers that I use. To me anything else like a grow bags or the green bags or in dust bins for example might be dangers to our health in some way, even though they are used by thousands of people. I always assumed the food we eat and drink contained in plastic of some sort is OK, thats why I use mine, but what about all the things we grow in plastic flower pots and bags, and even using shredded  news paper with ink on as got me thinking. As for using the stuff we get from our compost heaps and the process thats gone through, I suppose a little bit of plastic wont hurt.
May we all live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  ???
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: grawrc on May 30, 2007, 11:17:38
I shouldn't worry too much John. Even the oxygen we need to live is killing us slowly. At least we get healthy exercise planting and lifting and we don't add known nasties.
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: OllieC on May 30, 2007, 11:31:08
I don't think we need to worry. The process for a plant to absorb these long hydrocarbon molecules would be rather complex. Thinking out loud (as a not very good Physicist, not a Chemist), the only conceivable place I could picture anything would be on the surface, and this would be as an even distribution through the growing medium. It would be removed by scrubbing if one was worried.

I know there can be risks from heavy metal contaminants and the like, but obviously these are much simpler molecules, the absorption of which is much easier (for me) to visualise. Oh, and they wouldn't generally be used in the manufacture of food containers. I gather arsenic is a poor release agent although lead would probably be good.

It is possible that growing things in, say, dustbins, could expose us to some risk. IIRC there are various coal tar extracts that are a bit horrid (you know the plastic smell that you get on non-food containers sometimes). Personally I would avoid these for growing food, just in case, although I would be surprised if anything was deposited in the tissue of a plant.

That's my 2p spent.

Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Vegemite on May 31, 2007, 16:32:54
hey, back on the positive i just tipped out one small terracotta pot with a nicola seed potato in it and got enough lovely new potatoes for dinner! yum yum!
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Spookyville on June 01, 2007, 23:10:47
pics of our container spuds. Planted later than usual so only just coming through now...

1 - Earlies and Main crops in cheapo Wilko dustbins
2 - Bambino Salad variety in pop  up "bags"

Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Marymary on June 07, 2007, 20:34:31
Those pop-up bags are a really good idea.  Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: manicscousers on June 07, 2007, 20:50:25
we've had really good crops from these, 3 kestrel in the bottom, we got the bags from instores, 2.99..kept topping them up and watering, amazed at the amount we got  ;D
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: froglets on June 08, 2007, 09:18:40
What a great idea.  Are they porous enough to let any extra water drain out or do you have to treat them like sealed pots and be careul about over watering?
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Spookyville on June 08, 2007, 10:33:43
Quote from: froglets on June 08, 2007, 09:18:40
What a great idea.  Are they porous enough to let any extra water drain out or do you have to treat them like sealed pots and be careul about over watering?

well we tested them with the hosepipe beforehand and water did drip out. Mind you I have a little broken up polystyrene in the bottom as drainage too, just in case...
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: manicscousers on June 08, 2007, 12:22:28
we poked 4 holes in the bottom, they're that strong, it hasn't harmed them at all, the ones we've emptied, we're planting up with dwarf french beans
Title: Re: Container spuds
Post by: Spookyville on June 08, 2007, 18:45:38
well most of ours ahve shot up 2-5 inches in this weel alone, which is nice :)