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Title: put toms out
Post by: stocko75 on May 14, 2007, 21:15:38
i just came back from hols today, i had put my toms from gh to kitchen so neighbour could water them,they are now about 2 ft high and i have put them in garden tonight, is this ok??? its my 1st yr as a alottmenteer, thanks!!!
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: saddad on May 14, 2007, 22:18:19
Have some fleece on hand just in case we get a late frost!
;D
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: woody on May 14, 2007, 22:22:52
Hi all,
         i've had my toms out for a month all is well, just watch the weather like a hawk :P
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Spookyville on May 14, 2007, 22:38:20
2 grow bags planted out this last weekend.  seem ok so far..

Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: stocko75 on May 14, 2007, 22:48:12
its just a trial as i have some little babies in the gh,anyone know when its ok to put chilles out in our new climaate!!
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Melbourne12 on May 15, 2007, 09:27:10
It was pretty chilly (no pun intended) even in the southern climes of Harrow last night, around 6C.  So I think anything like chillies will certainly need a cloche or coldframe for protection for the next week or two.

We've used cloches (bought via Ebuygumbay :) :) ) quite a lot this spring, to very good effect.
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Chris Graham on May 15, 2007, 12:46:18
we had a bit of frost lastnight (Stirling, Scotland) but everything seems ok.  Marmande still alive!!
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Barnowl on May 15, 2007, 12:52:42
Despite no apparent frost risk in London,  I'm hedging my bets - most chillies and toms still filling the GH,  some in the CF and some out.
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Trevor_D on May 15, 2007, 13:03:44
Tomatoes in 5" pots gradually being hardened off: I might start planting out later this week if the forecasts are true.

I wouldn't plant chillies out at all. Grow them under glass. Even in my fairly sheltered garden, aubergines & chillies don't do anything useful outdoors. (They look pretty - if I've got any over I sometimes use 1 or 2 as ornamental spot plants.)
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Barnowl on May 15, 2007, 15:17:39
I tried two plants (Espanola and Mirasol) up at the allotment last year (put out in July) and they did pretty well.

The poinsettias were in front of south facing wall in the garden

Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Barnowl on May 15, 2007, 15:20:25
PS Didn't like the November frost ;D
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: caroline7758 on May 15, 2007, 16:00:56
How long do you take to harden off tomatoes? It's a real faff moving them in & out of the greenhouse every day and I haven't got a tall enough coldframe.
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: daisymay on May 15, 2007, 16:22:24
our definition of hardening off <runs and hides under desk for risk of getting told off> is to just bung stuff in their pots down the side of the greenhouse, where it is very sheltered and hope for the best! They get that for about a week and if they survive that they go in the ground.

Our survival of the fittest approach does work for us more than it doesn't, we have not got time to faff about too much either!
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: tim on May 15, 2007, 16:33:07
I'm close to that, BUT.........http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profiles0504/hardening_off.asp
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: quizzical1 on May 15, 2007, 16:49:33
We just leave the GH door and vent open 24/7 to harden plants off.
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: caroline7758 on May 15, 2007, 17:14:09
"2 to 6 weeks!". Ok if going straight from a propagator, but not from a cold greenhouse, surely!
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Barnowl on May 15, 2007, 17:21:52
I think two to six weeks is spoiling them rotten  ;D 

Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: STHLMgreen on May 15, 2007, 17:23:25
Wow, beautiful chilli photos.

What should the temperature be (at night) before planting tomatoes out?
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Trevor_D on May 15, 2007, 20:30:06
"Two to six weeks" - I think a lot of this advice (handed down & rarely tested) comes from The Victorian Kitchen Garden days, when you had staff & had to keep them busy. If you have the time & patience, then trundling stuff out every morning and back every evening does result in very sturdy plants.

In practice, as it's just the two of us and we also have to do all the washing, housework & shopping as well, it's usually give it a taste of the great outdoors and then let them get on with it.

But I still hover and am very nervous about putting things out too early....
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Marymary on May 15, 2007, 20:46:38
I am still nervous about putting them out but am chucking 6 tomato plants out every morning & back at night - I thought 4 days should do it then onto the next six - all I can cope with every morning before work.  At 2 to 6 weeks it would be September before I had them all out.  ;D

Wonderful chilli plants.
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: caroline7758 on May 15, 2007, 20:58:14
Good idea to do them in batches, Marymary- think I might do that.
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Biscombe on May 15, 2007, 20:59:24
Wow Barnowl! love your chilis!! did you keep any and over winter them? if so are they springing back to life?? Got a lemon drop chili that only had a months rest!!
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Lady Cosmos on May 15, 2007, 21:13:08
7 Days ago I put my first 7 tomato plants outside in the garden. For some protection I put up a plastic screen, 1 meter high. The rest of my tomato plants are still going inside every evening. One more week I guess, before planting them out.
Same with my peppers.  Even though it is not very warm at the moment, about 14-17 degrees, and a good bit of rain, the plants are growing very fast. 
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 15, 2007, 22:09:39
My method of hardening off it to start them on the windowsill, then move them to the mini-greenhouse. Then they get planted under cloches with the ends left open. finally, these come off.
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Chris Graham on May 16, 2007, 08:39:28
ok must be still too cold up here, i think i may have killed two of my Garden Pearls  :(

ahh well still got 20 more plants to kill  ;)
Title: Re: put toms out
Post by: Barnowl on May 16, 2007, 15:53:02
Quote from: Biscombe on May 15, 2007, 20:59:24
Wow Barnowl! love your chilis!! did you keep any and over winter them? if so are they springing back to life?? Got a lemon drop chili that only had a months rest!!

That's good work with the lemon drop.

Tried fleece over the ones on the allotment - they died :'(
Tried others in the garage (unheated) - only one survivor  ???

Indoors had a Mirasol and Apache and both have survived. :)

Of course the real challenge is to over winter a tomato!

I cut them back in very hard at the beginningof the winter so they only begin to flower again round about now.