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Title: Planning permision on land
Post by: Joe11 on May 06, 2007, 22:55:54
In the future i am considering buying some land (about 3 acres) but if i were to buy land with no buildings on site what sort of structures are you allowed to build with out planning permission? What i have heard is anything over 6ft and you need permission but not sure how accurate that is. Also if permision is required for most structures does any one know how hard (or easy hopefully) it would be for shed/stable type buildings?

Cheers
Joe
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: Larkshall on May 06, 2007, 23:15:24
You mention "stable", if you are planning on just using it for horses, be aware that horses do not count as Agricultural use.

Now if you were planning to use for agricultural crops AND keep a horse to work the land, you might get away with ag. use. Some crops in mass count as Ag. use, like carrots, potatoes, brassica's. Lettuce and similar crops are horticultural not agricultural.
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: Joe11 on May 06, 2007, 23:29:22
No they would not be used for horses. I only called them stables as i wasn't sure of corect wording but the buildings would be used for a cow and pigs primarily. So do you know what building you are allowed to do for agricultural use?
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: cambourne7 on May 06, 2007, 23:32:48
Hi

This type of land is much cheaper as you dont want to put a residential accomadation in it.

And it depends on where your looking, most of the land your looking for is going to be sold in auctions and its worth asking local farm agents for advice.

Camborune7

Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: SueSteve on May 07, 2007, 10:25:50
That is a good idea!
I think I would like to explore this idea a bit further.
We have this idea that we would like to build our own house in 7-10 years time, but I am unsure if it will ever happen, but what would be great is to buy a small area of land that we can use for growing our veggies and and relaxing, and maybe building on that land, or buying other land to build on at a future date.
I kow there are lots of 'paddocks' for sale around here at the moment, but what does that actually mean in terms of being able to use it for growing veggies?
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: cleo on May 07, 2007, 16:37:46
You really should check for any restrictions/rules etc before you commit to buying.
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: OliveOil on May 14, 2007, 10:33:54
GOsh your plan is exactly the same as my plan!!!! I couldnt find much out.  Ag land is going for £4k/acre minimum, if its got water, road, fence it just goes up.  I'm still looking but in no rush.
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: DadnDom on May 16, 2007, 19:31:21
Planning....the great con. Rich get richer, the poor end up being mugged with lifetime mortgages for a meagre parcel of land on which they can build a box to live in.

You don't stand a cat in hells chance of getting planning on agri land. Even stables are impossibly difficult to get planning for. Change of use again is difficult.
Laws are there to protect our countryside apparently, I think it's more likely they are there to ensure those that own the right bits of land get top dollar for them.

Tiny plot near me room for one car and a 3 bed house with minute garden 80k easily. Yet I could buy ten acres and build a decent house on it for that.
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: ACE on May 16, 2007, 19:56:48
Quote from: DadnDom on May 16, 2007, 19:31:21


You don't stand a cat in hells chance of getting planning on agri land. Even stables are impossibly difficult to get planning for. Change of use again is difficult.
Laws are there to protect our countryside


Yep, and thats how it should stay.  There's enough  garden grabbing going on to house everybody. Hopefully that will be sorted soon 15th June, 10 minute bill to be read in parliament. There are also plenty of old houses about to be renovated. 

The planners have got wise to the 'I only want a stable' brigade. First the stable, then they need a house to live in, to look after the 'business',  then the business dissappears.

Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: DadnDom on May 17, 2007, 10:43:50
Garden grabbing, ten minute bill...tell me more. Do you mean building in gardens? Lots of it going on round here.
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: ACE on May 17, 2007, 18:55:18
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/saveourgardens/index.php (http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/saveourgardens/index.php)
Title: Re: Planning permision on land
Post by: DadnDom on May 17, 2007, 21:46:08
Thanks for the information, I have noticed this around here a lot over the last 12 months, good to see something being done about it. I'll pass the info on to my friends.