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Title: Carrot Spacing
Post by: Joe11 on April 16, 2007, 19:16:15
Hi, my carrots have started to show above ground now but i have foolishly lost the packet that the seeds came in and hence no instructions lol. Well what i need to know is when do i start thinning them out and how much room do i leave between each carrot?

They are main crop carrots but forgot what type.

Thanks
Joe
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: okra on April 16, 2007, 19:23:47
I would give them another couple of weeks and then space to 4"
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: Rohaise on April 16, 2007, 19:35:14
Okra ...I hope you dont mind another carroty question from a beginner?
         This barrier that we are supposed to put up all around the carrots....how high does it have to be..and how do I go about rigging it up .please ?   Rohaise    :)
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: allaboutliverpool on April 16, 2007, 19:40:49
Joe, you can leave a few carrots thinned to half an inch for litte early ones and the ones that you want for man-sized meals to 4inches.

Rohaise, it is supposed to be something as fine as fleece 18inches high and supported on canes or similar. I am not convinced and if you make a framework of canes (you can buy rubber ball things with holes to join the corners, and cover the whole lot with fleece.
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: okra on April 16, 2007, 19:42:16
Ask other plot holders if carrot fly is a problem on your site, I have never used barriers and have never had a problem.  
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: tim on April 16, 2007, 19:52:47
Rather than going to the trouble of erecting a barrier, why not just chuck the fleece over the bed??
Far more effective.
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: manicscousers on April 16, 2007, 19:53:57
we leave a row of carrots so's we get little finger carrots, thin them gradually, main crop we thin to 3 tp 4"    :)
we cover the whole lot with fleece
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: Rohaise on April 16, 2007, 19:57:57
Oh!  you are there ! Thanks for your replies !  well I already have some fleece and some old canes ,so all I will need to buy are those rubber ball things ,which I think I have seen in the adverts in the garden mags.  I just hope it wont all blow away in the wind !   Are those pesky carrot flies OUT yet ?  Rohaise x
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: davyw1 on April 16, 2007, 20:02:47
A thought.  If the carrot fly is only supposed to get no higher than 18", how does it get over my tin sheeted fence.
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: Rohaise on April 16, 2007, 20:05:48
Manicscousers and Tim ,Thankyou for repies which came whilst poking out my last posting (with one finger as I do !)   ...SO...just lay the fleece over the ground and weight it down with bricks or something ?   Rohaise
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: Rohaise on April 16, 2007, 20:08:29
Quote from: davyw1 on April 16, 2007, 20:02:47
A thought.  If the carrot fly is only supposed to get no higher than 18", how does it get over my tin sheeted fence.
Hallo DavyW1  , so you are saying the barrier doesn,t have to be fleece ?    and may not work anyway ?  ::)    Rohaise
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: allaboutliverpool on April 16, 2007, 20:15:38
Another tip I was given was to draw a little soil up over the tops of the roots as the fly likes to lay its eggs right at the base of the leaves.
If it cannot get there it does not bother and flies off at a height of 12 inches except where it meets a corrugated tin sheet where it obviously finds a thermal and paraglides over it!
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: davyw1 on April 16, 2007, 20:31:50
Quote from: Rohaise on April 16, 2007, 20:08:29
Quote from: davyw1 on April 16, 2007, 20:02:47
A thought.  If the carrot fly is only supposed to get no higher than 18", how does it get over my tin sheeted fence.
Hallo DavyW1  , so you are saying the barrier doesn,t have to be fleece ?    and may not work anyway ?  ::)    Rohaise
What i am saying is that i have 4 foot tin sheeting round my garden, so if the carrot fly only get 18" above the ground how does it get in my garden.
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: Rohaise on April 16, 2007, 21:29:03
       ;D   Thanks all ....you,re all helping me learn so much ! Rohaise x
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: autumn leaf on April 16, 2007, 21:36:42
In an attempt to defeat the carrot fly I decided to try sowing my carrots with flowers this year such as nigella, godetia and cornflower.  I carefully prepared a seed bed and duly sowed it.  The idea being that the flowers would confuse the carrot fly but would die off before the carrots thus providing a colourful bed etc etc.  What the books didn't count on was moles!  Went down to have a look this evening and found great molehills in my nicely prepared bed.  The little b***er had even had a field day in my beetroot planting.  Any advice, anyone? :-[ ???
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: Jeannine on April 16, 2007, 21:49:53
If I grow my carrotts on flat ground I get the pest if I grow in a foot high raised bed I don't!! XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: miniroots on April 17, 2007, 11:24:00
I've heard interplanting with onions puts the pests off??  Does this work?
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: gibbygib on April 17, 2007, 13:52:06
I went for a variety called "Flyaway" last year and planted them next to a row of Early Nantes.  They got a few of the earlies but the maincrop where untouched.
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: Tee Gee on April 17, 2007, 16:50:12
QuoteA thought.  If the carrot fly is only supposed to get no higher than 18", how does it get over my tin sheeted fence.

My theory is they are carried over the barrier by thermal currents.

Have you ever watched dandelion seed flutter about when there doesn't appear to be a breath of wind.

Or sat in your easy chair and watched house dust float around in a beam of sunshine :o

This is how I cover mine;

note; the gap at the end is staged to show the carrots growing under the fleece!

(http://tinyurl.com/yntk2y)
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: powerspade on April 17, 2007, 16:55:51
Carrot fly can smell a carrot over ten miles away, when you thin them draw up soil around the neck of the carrots so that the little blighter's cannot get to the neck cos thats where they lay their eggs. Any carrot that gets affected pull and burn
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: cornykev on April 17, 2007, 17:33:15
I've interplanted with onions like Miniroots so we'll see if it works, another tip was thin out the carrots in the evening or on an overcast day and as the Scousers have said let them grow to finger size then use them in salads and leave the rest to grow, but will probably take Tims advise and throw a fleece over them, if the carrot fly still get in then its a flame thrower next year.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: davyw1 on April 17, 2007, 18:29:06
KEV. On reading your thread brought to mind some of the things i have done in the past to keep the dreaded fly away. Since i have grown them in the Polly tunnel i don,t have to bother any more. ( well not to much)
I have soaked rope in Jays fluid and laid it between the rows.
I have soaked rope in creosote laid on polythene strips between the rows.
i have sprayed the foliage with Jaye's fluid
I have not planted them till June after the fly is supposed to have gone ( no one told the fly it was supposed to be gone )
I have sown them in shallow trenches and back filled as the foliage grows so there was at least  3" of soil above the carrot top
I have even used mothballs.
I have used a combination of at least two of the above.

So you have to admit i am a trier.
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: cornykev on April 17, 2007, 20:09:23
Your problem Dave, is that you give up too easy, bone idle, get your finger out man and get stuck in you just give in too easily.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Carrot Spacing
Post by: cacran on April 21, 2007, 08:20:50
what you didn't say, Davyw1, was did any of em work!!!!!!LOL! ;D