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Title: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 15:00:34
Anyone ever grown these ?

The leaves are doing funny twisting things.  Kinda curling under and twisting as well.

I've had a good look for bugs but can't see anything.  I hoping this is "just what they do".

I do miss SS.  Come on girl, give me some inspiration here.

;D

Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: grawrc on April 09, 2007, 15:03:59
http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/vegetable/tomato/images/pineapple_fruit.jpg (http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/vegetable/tomato/images/pineapple_fruit.jpg) Have a look at this KP. Don't know if it'll help though.
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 09, 2007, 15:07:12
Mine have sprouted  ;D They've only got the 1st leaves on though so can't help you X
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: saddad on April 09, 2007, 15:08:13
I've grown Annanas... and many toms do that, as long as there is no wee beastie present it should be ok...
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 15:08:26
they look ill roflmao.

mine are curling under at the edges with a bit of a kink (oower missus).  They're the only variety doing this and they're right in amongst loads of others.

but thanks for the pic, i'll have a little google myself.

;D

Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 15:09:50
thanks saddad.  i've been lifting up all their leaves having a right good look.  i bet they're thinking "ffs leave me alone".

Give me a sec and i'll take a pic for you Trixiebelle.

;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 09, 2007, 15:10:23
That's a copyrighted photo Grawrc :D

Victory Seed Co. are gonna GET YA :D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 15:17:12
(http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4416/spineappletomsle6.jpg)]

this one's not !!  roflmao

anyway grawrc's one is old.  can't STILL be protected surely.   ;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 09, 2007, 15:32:12
I can see A4A in the background! :D

Mine have only just sprutted MrsKP. But I'll keep an eye out for similar curly tendencies!
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 15:35:11
this thread if i'm not mistaken  ;D

Mine were sown on 27/2.

We'll have to swap notes as we go.  I'm keen to get a good crop of these spesheel toms for obvious reasons.

;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: calamityjayneuk on April 09, 2007, 15:50:12
Hey Mrs KP! I'm very much intrigued by what looks like empty milk cartons for your tomatoes - do you grow them in there until it's time to transplant, or do they stay in the milk cartons?

Always looking for new ideas, hope you don't mind me picking your brains

Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 15:55:10
pick away my love. 

I'm always running out of pots and JRP and his recycling ideas pointed me in the direction of milk bottles.  I don't plant JRP's way though (as I could never quite get to grips with it). 

My only problem that I can see atm, is that when I need to pot up (to renew some goodness in the compost i.e. now) I'm going to need something much deeper.  I haven't quite figured out how to get around that problem yet and was wondering if I could just give them a bit of a feed and keep them in the pots they're in until it's black bucket ring culture time and plant them deep up to the first leaves (seed leaves or true leaves - another quandary).

If I could get away with it, I'd only pot up once, but obviously need to get some nourishment to them.

I've used this method for my whole tom crop so far so really need to think of an answer ... and fast ! (actually not the whole crop, just seen some that are in small black pots, sown a month earlier than the milk bottles and only half the size !!  :o).  Now I'm wondering if a) i've mucked up the sowing dates b) the extra leg room in the milk bottles has given them a good head start.  Off to look in the diary now.  lol

;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: grawrc on April 09, 2007, 16:29:35
Hey Trixieb it's only a pointer, I didn't actually upload the photo. They ought to be glad of the publicity imho. :P ;)
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: cleo on April 09, 2007, 17:17:27
Is the pic of the `problem`?-they look perfectly healthy to me.

I sometimes have customers who have never seen potato leaved varieties and they do ask if they should look like that
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Jeannine on April 09, 2007, 19:02:04
They are a potato leaf variety, don't worry it is OK, the leaves look more floppy that the others, XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 19:19:11
"potato leaf" ????? i thought i was getting a pineapple !!!!!   :o ;D

many thanks peeps.  no i've never seen a potato leaf variety (didn't even know they existed), the twisting and curling effect was starting to worry me and made me wonder if i was doing anything wrong.

I have lived and learnt and shall worry no more.

;D



Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 19:24:22
well see once you know what you're looking for, you can find everything.

Trixieb see here

http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/tomato/2004111539004321.html (http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/tomato/2004111539004321.html)

Many thanks once again, cleo and Jeannine.  That's some new, interesting and v. useful I've learned this weekend.

;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 09, 2007, 19:31:10
just an observation, i've just run my fingers through my babies that are sitting on the window sill next to me.

don't you just LOVE the smell of tomato plants ??

:P
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: jaggythistle on April 09, 2007, 19:48:43


  Aye yer sent fer hen.....................sniffin yer mato plants indeed  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Emagggie on April 09, 2007, 20:34:10
Thank goodness for this thread KP. Got some potato leaved ones up and coming myself. I shall know not to panic now. ;)..and yes I love the tomato smell too.

Just love the avatar Jaggythistle.
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 10, 2007, 05:53:28
at least i haven't named them individually jaggy ......... yet !   :P

At least emaggie and i are on the same wavelength ......... we'll be on the same ward soon. 

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Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: saddad on April 10, 2007, 07:07:32
They are looking great... panic over... by the way it is a monster plant and fruit...
8)
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 10, 2007, 07:28:04
just counted, i've got 6 of the ickle darlings so i might try a couple outside.  i'll start building the scaffolding now !

;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Emagggie on April 10, 2007, 08:26:37
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Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Emagggie on April 10, 2007, 08:54:33
Quote from: MrsKP on April 10, 2007, 05:53:28
at least i haven't named them individually jaggy ......... yet !   :P

At least emaggie and i are on the same wavelength ......... we'll be on the same ward soon. 

(http://img116.exs.cx/img116/1231/z7shysterical.gif)

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Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 10, 2007, 14:42:36
Hello again :D

So does the usual 'pinching out' apply to PL tomato plants?
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: MrsKP on April 10, 2007, 17:43:29
I think so as I'm sure SS said they're indeterminate.

;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Jeannine on April 10, 2007, 18:54:23
They are  an indeterminate,,so yes prune, thye are also beautiful,a glorious bi colour in case anyone out there doesn't know what they look like. Xx Jeannine
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 27, 2007, 18:16:06
What does indeterminate mean?
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Jeannine on April 27, 2007, 19:10:33
It means the tomato will grow on and on and on if unchecked. In our case it is stopped by the frost or we nip off the growing tip. Another word for vine or cordon

Determinate on the other hand means the plant will grow to a certain height depending on the variety and will stop growing,the final tip is actually a fruit truss.Another name for determinate is bush.

This is why we prune indeterminates and we don't prune determinates.

If you don't prune indeterminate a lot of energy goes into unwanted foliage.

If you prune determinates you will have a loss od fruit.

So one is exactly the opposite to the other. XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 27, 2007, 19:17:55
Thank you Jeannine ... but I have absolutely NO idea what you mean  ;D

I think I'll just plant them in big pots and see what happens!

Trix X
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Jeannine on April 27, 2007, 19:36:40
Trixie, let me try it another way.

When your tomato plant grows, it has a growing tip and all the upward growth comes out of that tip ,think of that type of tomato plant as a climbing bean, forget the side branches for now, just think about the tip. An inderminate plant will just go on growing higher and higher, sending out side branches as it goes,just exactly the same way a climbing bean would.

Now think of a dwarf bean, it's growing tip grows for a while then the plant stops gaining height ,in the case of a bean about 2 feet.No matter what you do, you will not make that bean grow any higher because it cannot. Think of this as a determinate tomato.

The indeterminate tomato grows and grows like the climbing bean.

The determinate tomato grows to a fixed height and then stops.

Each variety of tomato fall into one category or the other,so if you know the name of yout tomato you will know if it is determinate or indeterminate.

Is that any better XX Jeannine


I will tell you about semi-determinates another time XX
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Jeannine on April 27, 2007, 19:44:13
Trixie, I should have added.

If you have established that your tomato plant is an indeterminate one, then you need to prune it by pinching out the suckers growing between the main stem and a branch   Someone will havea picture. Most people also pinch out the growing tip when the plant has 4 or 5 trusses (bunches of fruit or flowers)

If you are sure your plant is a determinate one then don't take anything off it,just leave it alone.

XX Jeannine

Prune Supersprouts Pineapple plants
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 28, 2007, 16:58:05
Thanks Jeannine  ;D

Between the two differently worded explanations I eventually got the drift  ;D

But Super's plants don't seem to have the suckers between the main branches?

Oh well! I'm potting them into their permanent beds next week so we'll see what happens  :)

Trixie X
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: tim on April 28, 2007, 17:09:23
PS Pineapple are delicious!
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 28, 2007, 17:16:57
I'm hoping so Tim  :)

If they fruit this year will I be able to save the seed for next year?

Never saved tomato seed before.
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: tim on April 28, 2007, 17:45:42
Well, it's not an F1.
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 28, 2007, 17:48:54
THANK YOU  ;D
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Jeannine on April 28, 2007, 18:21:05
Trixie, the suckers will come as they plant grows XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Supersprout's Pineapple Tomatoes
Post by: Trixiebelle on September 20, 2007, 17:05:49
Just reporting back about Super's Pineapple toms!

I had 6 plants that looked really healthy but the flowers never developed into fruit  :( Many of them just rotted and fell off and then we got blight.

HOWEVER! We did manage to get 3 toms off a couple of plants.

Two of them I've given to my neighbour Ahmed to save the seed for next year and me & Grandad Jack shared the last one.

It must TRULY be the loveliest tomato I have ever tasted  :) Especially since it came from the Supersprout Seed Stable!