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Title: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Trevor_D on March 31, 2007, 15:53:11
Advice needed, please....

My only previous attempt to grow this, a couple of years ago, was a total failure. I did everything I was told to on the packet (at least, I thought I had, but obviously hadn't!) but they didn't grow. I planted them out in a block, watered them well and they just sat there for months, barely doubling in size. Everything else was romping away, but not the celery. I used a few leaves in the stock pot, but the bulk of the crop went for compost.

OK, I'm trying again. A variety called "Lathom Self-Blanching", sowed in the propagator at the end of February; now in the GH ready to prick into modules. The packet says plant out May/June. Shall I manure the site now? (I've got masses of horse dung.) For convenience, I put them in the same bed as the carrot & beet last time, but would the tomato bed be better, as they seem to need the same sort of treatment (ie. lots of goodness & watering)?

Anyone grown it successfully?

(My father used to grow the wonderful blanched celery the old-fashioned way, in trenches. But he did use rather a lot of soot!)
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: tim on March 31, 2007, 16:39:07
Don't know about which site, but choose the wettest.

1. Yes to manure. Lots. And some general fertiliser.
2. Can't suggest why yours should not have grown.
3. Water - what is 'well'? But doubt that that would have prevented them at least getting going.
    When they do get going, I would think at least 1/2 gal per plant per day?
4. Also, when growing, liquid fertiliser once or twice.
5. Usually slugs are the biggest problem. I have to use pellets - & keep them renewed. Because the plants are so close together, no 'friend' can get at them.
5. It is recommended that you put straw amongst the outer plants to help blanching, but there may be some danger of this encouraging slugs?
6. It can be grown - we used to sell it at the WI.
7. Ours was poor last year because it produced as many side shoots as heart ones. But still worthwhile. Best to have succession?
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: allaboutliverpool on March 31, 2007, 17:44:38
I grew celery for the first time last year and each one was enormous, about three times the weight of a shop one :) Unfortunately each comprised of about 20 heads and were full of soil. :(  The whole lot went on the compost. Someone must know the secret. ???
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Trevor_D on March 31, 2007, 17:54:32
Obviously I didn't water enough. Nor liquid fertilizer. Thanks Tim - I think I've got tomorrow's job sorted: dig out a bed, plenty of muck. Chicken pellets when I plant? And a comfrey feed? Yes, think I'll put them on the end of the tomato bed. Hope OH will be delighted - she loves celery!
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: manicscousers on March 31, 2007, 17:56:37
even if they're not good for eating raw, they make lovely soup and bits for in stew  :)
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: cornykev on March 31, 2007, 18:08:57
I'll have to get mine started thanx for the reminder Trevor.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Trixiebelle on March 31, 2007, 18:17:48
Why is a question about celery in the Edible Plants section?  ;) Please get Dan to move it  ;D
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: cornykev on March 31, 2007, 18:24:05
Lovely crunchy celery dipped in salt  yum yum. ;D ;D ;D :P :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: tim on March 31, 2007, 18:25:48
Hen food, Trixie??
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: cornykev on March 31, 2007, 18:48:46
I think shes feeling PECKish.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Barnowl on April 01, 2007, 11:31:43
We grew a block of 20 self blanching. during the dry spell gave them one large watering can every other day or so.
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: tim on April 01, 2007, 11:34:56
Lucky you if it worked - but NOT enough!!
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Trevor_D on April 01, 2007, 13:27:27
Well, She Who Must Be Obeyed thinks it's edible. So He Who Must Do The Work is under marching orders to pour buckets-ful of water on their heads every day without fail! Just off to the plot to dig a barrow-load of manure into their intended site.
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: manicscousers on April 01, 2007, 14:49:41
I'm putting them in a slight trench so any water runs into the celery  ;D
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: tim on April 01, 2007, 16:18:19
Crafty?

Wonder if planting through weed-suppressant/slug off-putting fabric would help?
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Georgie on April 01, 2007, 20:54:54
Quote from: Trevor_D on March 31, 2007, 17:54:32
Obviously I didn't water enough. Nor liquid fertilizer. Thanks Tim - I think I've got tomorrow's job sorted: dig out a bed, plenty of muck. Chicken pellets when I plant? And a comfrey feed? Yes, think I'll put them on the end of the tomato bed. Hope OH will be delighted - she loves celery!

I'd say Lathom self-blanching is a good choice.  I grew some for the first time last year in pots.  Good homemade compost mix, organic fertiliser and watered daily and they were fine.  Here's the proof.  G x

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/georgie_girl15/Celery.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/georgie_girl15/Celery2.jpg)
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: flossie on April 01, 2007, 21:02:33
What a superb crop.  I'll be really pleased with myself if my crop is as half as good as that  :)
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Georgie on April 01, 2007, 21:49:43
Thanks Flo.  I think it's just that when you only have a very small space in which to grow things they tend to get a lot more attention?  Bit like being an only child versus one of many!   ;D

G x
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Barnowl on April 02, 2007, 02:44:47
Tim, I'm puzzled. We have sandy free draining soil, although I had bunged in a fair bit of compost, so presumably we ought to have watered even more than you recommend, but the crop was good. Do you think that we got away with less because it was sheltered by enviromesh?

They were only under mesh because we ran out of space and I planted them next to some brassicas which needed protection against the flying rats. Have put together a net cage so the same won't apply this year.
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: tim on April 02, 2007, 08:27:29
Me too - truly don't know. Just know that on a clayey/loam, I never seem to water enough. It's always powder dry in the middle of the block.
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: growmore on April 02, 2007, 09:36:03
When your celery  plant is established . Carefully dig a  hole starting about 8inch away from you plant sloping towards roots  ..Insert a 2inch or 3inch pipe into this about 8 to 10 inch into soil just away from roots,, Backfill soil around pipe ..water  steadily down pipe till pipe overflows. Leave a minute, then fill pipe  to top again with water ..You can use a weak liquid feed down pipe too .. Leave about 10inch to a foot of pipe sticking above ground level .. Hopefully This should  help make sure your plant has got plenty of water where its needed and never dries out ... cheers.. Jim

Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: tim on April 02, 2007, 09:51:52
That pipe thing is great - because you fill it up & know exactly how much the plant is getting.

And nothing runs off.
Title: Re: Self-Blanching Celery
Post by: Barnowl on April 02, 2007, 10:54:14
The pipe sounds a great idea.