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Title: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: LJ on March 18, 2007, 20:56:51
In the last few weeks we have noticed our front lawn slowly dying and thought it was due to poor drainage. However we have now realised it's due to leatherjackets (I've always hated Daddy Long Legs and now I have a reason to!!).
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE any advice on getting rid would be VERY gratefully recieved!!
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: saddad on March 18, 2007, 23:23:23
Napalm????
Why grow grass anyway, you can't eat it... dig it up and give the local birds a treat!
;D
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: manicscousers on March 19, 2007, 10:51:00
that's what starlings are for, they land on lawns in great flocks and eat the little bu**ers..don't know how else to get rid, sorry  :)
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: bumble-dee on March 19, 2007, 13:52:36
easy- LJ, you,ve got to remove them or you,re looking at a new lawn,(or patio).

an easy way to do this if you,re not squeemish, is to thoroughly water the areas affected, cover for a few hours with thick black polythene and wait for the blighters to emerge to the surface.

then squish the b*****rs!!!

hope this works for you.

dee
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: Tee Gee on March 19, 2007, 14:28:56
The professional answer would be to use nematodes but with the fickle british weather this can be a bit of a waste of time, plus timing is crucial.

I would go the starling route, and the easiest way to do this is throw some bread crumbs on the lawn to attract them then after they have eaten the bread they will have a go at the leather jacket.

Word of warning not to much bread or the starlings will eat their fill on this and leave the leather jackets!!

Leather Jackets;  http://tinyurl.com/2p3325
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: LJ on March 19, 2007, 17:30:48
Thanks everyone, think we'll try the black plastic AND the breadcrumbs this weekend.
I'd read about the nematodes on a web page but seems like you can only buy them in July/August and I really need to do something now or we'll have no lawn left!!

It's a new house and I'm new at gardening and I'm trying to get to grips with my back garden i.e. veggie patch which I'm REALLY excited about. The last thing I really needed was this to happen to front lawn.

Has anyone had this problem?? Can you give me some hope that my lawn might re grow (think we'll throw some seed on to give helping hand as well).

Thanks again
Lisa :D
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: Hyacinth on March 19, 2007, 17:34:27
yep, I had the problem but the magpies soon sorted it....bare patch in the grass for a bit but then it grew again...
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: LJ on March 19, 2007, 17:46:43
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Alishka I was convinced I'd have to re turf!!!! You've given me some hope  ;D
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: bunjies on March 19, 2007, 22:32:45
water it, cover it up for a few hours, borrow some chickens, uncover it stand back and watch!

i did this on a new lawn (dont buy cheap turf ::)) but didnt need to worry about the chickens as the local starlings were already daily visitors to my garden ;)
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: zoro on March 31, 2007, 21:09:44
Laid new turf last year from B+Q ...took well looked great but died off and we were inundated with daddy long legs ....

Area covered with leather jackets  now ...(grub of daddy long legs )
read ..to expect plague's as warm winter has not killed them off  a they would usually do ....
i have re-seeded but woodlice ear grass roots ...so i am going for the breadcrumbs and hope birds help i can always reseed later .....
good luck dot
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: saddad on March 31, 2007, 21:13:48
I still think Napalm is the solution!!!!!!!
;D
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: plantmadfish on April 03, 2007, 23:02:44
I work in a garden centre, we sell a product by provado that you water on the lawn that kills leather jackets and chafer grubs.
It is available in 20m2 and 100m2 size £3.95 and £14.95 ish.
Best of all it is in now unlike the nematodes that we can only get in may / june time even though we have customers that want it now like yourself.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: LJ on April 05, 2007, 23:55:56
Thanks for your advice Plantmadfish, I'll go and look for some tomorrow!!

They've even moved into my flower beds now :'(, I spent ages today picking the little so and so's out after i'd covered with plastic last night. Mind you the birds were happy!! I'm just worried they'll find their way into my new veggie beds. It's my first try at growing my own veg and I'll be gutted if the nibble them too!! Lets just hope they grow into Daddy Long Legs and fly away soon!
LJ

P.S. My hubbie agrees with you Saddad and thinks Napalm is the solution!!!
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: zoro on April 06, 2007, 08:49:49
I bought the Provado product but re leatherjackets it say "Apply when the daddy longlegs are seen hoping along lawn :- Mid August / Sept ...."

it kills the grub stage ...does not seem to kill the leatherjacket stage ...
so back to the birds till August ...
Re:- hope they fly away ...this is when they lay the eggs to repeat the cycle so no relief there .. :'(
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: wilko on April 06, 2007, 14:10:24
I was wondering what a leatherjacket looked like  ::), thanks Tee Gee for the link, i found some of them on wednesday, when digging, ugly little blighters aren't they, i'll put them on the bird table, if I find any more  :)
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: Trixiebelle on April 06, 2007, 15:25:52
I didn't know what they looked like either. I had a nightmare about them the other night after seeing the pic.  ;D

How come they're so BIG when craneflies are so SMALL?
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: emmy1978 on April 10, 2007, 11:35:32
 :o :o :o The grass around the side of my flat has been slowly dying for a few weeks now. I thought it was just bad drainage as we are small block of flats built by cowboy. Not so sure now. If i go out and look for them will i be able to see them or are they under the soil? Agree with Trixie - that pic is horrible!
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: sally_cinnamon on April 10, 2007, 15:23:01
THere is a page in Dr Hessayons Lawn Expert book with the name of a product you can use, and also a couple of tips.  Can't remember what it said so I'm not much use, but you could pop down to B&Q and read the page, like I did.  Except it might be an idea to remember what you read, unlike me!!!
:)
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: LJ on April 11, 2007, 21:59:08
Emmy- I know what you mean we were convinced it was drainage but then when my husband came back from being away for 1 week he couldn't believe how it had spread and that when we started to investigate!! They tend to be just unber the surface, if you scrap away it dead bit of the lawn you will probably see some unless they've moved on to destroy the next patch!!??

Trixiebelle-Believe you me they are no prettier in the flesh and after you've picked out what seems like hundreds from your lawn you don't get any better!! I bought a fly swotter from ikea last night - 69p for 2......BEWARE DADDY LONG LEGS HERE I COME!!!!!!

Thanks Sally think I'll go to B & Q tomorrow! I've tried covering with plastic and letting birds eat them and pick them out but there is just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many of the little b***ers!! Wish me luck!
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: RobC on April 12, 2007, 16:44:14
Interesting info from greenthumb on the subject

http://www.greenthumb.co.uk/downloads/Leatherjackets.pdf (http://www.greenthumb.co.uk/downloads/Leatherjackets.pdf)
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: SueLawn on April 12, 2007, 21:23:46
Hmmm, we have leatherjackets!
I have been finding them under the plant pots, and under the compost bags, I am new to this and didn't know what they were. I have been putting them in the compost bin, becasue I can't bare to squish them, either that or the wheely bin!!
We have just got an allotment (yesterday) and I am finding them there as well.
Our back lawn is slowly dying from the outside edges inwards, we are blaming it on drainage, but after reading this I am not sure.
I have a photo of the grass in Jan, and it looks fine, but now, we just have crusty bare earth. Out the front the lawn has disappeared and we have moss!
Our house is only 3 yrs old, and part of a new development, all teh neighbours are complaining about their grass too, and say it is down to drainage.
Sue
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: emmy1978 on April 16, 2007, 12:59:13
i've been on to our landlords but as is isn't drainage they don't care. I'm thinking there will be lots of builders rubble under the probably very thin soil.
The ground is rock hard and nearly all the grass is gone. Can i give it all a really good water and reseed? Help please as i don't want to go through the summer like this!  :-[
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: cambourne7 on April 18, 2007, 13:24:08
I found this and though it might be helpful

http://www.garden-care.org.uk/hot_press.asp
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: Plum on April 18, 2007, 19:00:54
Green Gardener suggesttreating bad infestations  now and in Sept . Just ordered a special deal were I get one treatment of nematodes now and nother sent in September so I won't forget(and it works out cheaper
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: LJ on April 26, 2007, 22:16:18
Well at long last we've killed the leather jackets Hip Hip Hooray!!!!!!! ;D Ended up have lawn care people out cos after trying covering with plastic and using breadcrumbs etc AND using the Pravado stuff we STILL couldn't get rid of them all!!!!!!!!!! Anyway the lawn guy sprayed the lawn and the day after the little b****ers came to the surface and died - YIP PEE!!! I think our local birds thought it was Christmas bless 'em they had a field day eating 3 & 4 at once. At one point we must had have more than 20 starlings on the front lawn and it's not very big. Fingers crossed the grass will start to grow back now we've got rid. I've even bought a fly swotter from Ikea to kill any daddy long legs I see!!

Anyway thanks again everyone for your advice.
Lisa x
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: scotch-mist on April 26, 2007, 22:57:36
**@@##*!!!!! ???
                               I was very happily sowing veg seeds all day today,
came on here tonight and seen what leather jackets look like :o
           I've been looking at these all soddin day and didn't know what they
were >:(
                Does this mean all my veg are going to be ate before I even get a
look in?   :'(
                This is enough to make me turn to football  :P
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: Plum on April 27, 2007, 14:25:21
Well they attacked my lettuce and beetroot. Whole set of modules worth gone. So answer is I'm afraid yes. Last year lost courgette as well
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: GRACELAND on April 27, 2007, 19:05:26
If There In Your Lawn agood way to get rid of them is to cover a area with black plastic over night , in the Morn get up uncover and you will see them all on top of lawn !

Either pick um out or Leave for thje Birds  :D
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: SueSteve on April 27, 2007, 19:50:35
Quote from: LJ on April 26, 2007, 22:16:18
Anyway the lawn guy sprayed the lawn and the day after the little b****ers came to the surface and died - YIP PEE!!! I think our local birds thought it was Christmas bless 'em they had a field day eating 3 & 4 at once.

Hope the spray wasnt poisonous for the birds!
Title: Re: LEATHERJACKETS!!!!!!! HELP!!!
Post by: SueSteve on April 27, 2007, 19:53:44
Graceland,
Just wondering if you are the same one as on the Gloucestershire message boards, probably not, but thought I's ask anyway!