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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Mrs Ava on May 11, 2004, 12:59:08

Title: Pak choi
Post by: Mrs Ava on May 11, 2004, 12:59:08
Will the pigeons eat my pak choi?  I have it under netting but could use the net else where if it isn't needed.
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: tim on May 11, 2004, 13:23:57
Don't sow mine till June - being a crop that goes on into the frosts.
Don't think they will - but flea beetle most certainly will, unless fleeced!! = Tim
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: NickG on May 11, 2004, 15:00:15
We just lost a whole row to flea beetle  :'( we have some derris powder, for the replacements is this the best option?
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: tim on May 11, 2004, 15:40:17
No - fleece! = Tim
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: cleo on May 11, 2004, 17:11:25
Fleece would be better for flea beetle-derris should be saved for emergencies-I am not totally sold on `organic` but when one thinks back on the stuff we used to use-ummmumum-thinks-Chlorophos was effective :-[

Stephan.
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: Mrs Ava on May 11, 2004, 18:07:06
Okay, so cage will come off.  Excellent.  Flea beetles did have a good go, but they are under control now (she says hoping  :-\).  And thank you Tim, if they are a good goer until late in the year, I will sow some in the gaps for an extra pak choi bonus!  ;D
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: NickG on May 11, 2004, 20:43:27
I thought Derris dust was a natural product, that could be used in an organic garden, is not the case? help ???

I will get some more fleece and cover, how long should the fleece stay on?

Thanks

Nick

P.S. sorry for Hijacking your thread E.J.
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: Mrs Ava on May 11, 2004, 22:49:57
Hijack away.  I used Derris on my rocket and pak choi as they were being flea beetle attacked, and it does say that it is organic on the pot, but I guess, if you can avoid the use of anything chemical related, no matter how organic, then that can only be a good thing, and a barrier, like the fleece, is the way to go.  Have to say, my rocket was glorious under the fleece, so I removed the fleece and within days they were all full of holes! :o
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: tim on May 12, 2004, 07:07:41
Nick - yes - like pyrethrum from chrysanths -  'non-toxic to humans' in the right dose. Maybe I'm a bit para-whatnot, but anything that, in certain doses, causes harm, needs careful handling  & certainly kills bees &/or fish - is a no-no. And I don't want to feel committed to washing produce.

Fleece - a small nuisance, but I leave it on - as for carrots & brassica. = Tim
Title: Re:Pak choi
Post by: philcooper on May 12, 2004, 14:40:22
The HDRA's organic guidelines give derris and pyrethrum "qualified acceptance" it's definition is:

Qualified acceptance: materials and practices not suitable for regular use in an Organic garden. They are included to help those moving towards an Organic regime and to deal with particular problems.