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Title: Once they've germinated...
Post by: kitten on March 12, 2007, 22:01:12
Okay, sorry to ask such a basic question, but i don't want to spoil my little lovelys!

Almost all of the seeds we sowed a couple of weeks ago are up & standing proud (beetroot, carrots, various lettuces) ;D I'd say they're about an inch or so tall. Do I now take the propogator lid off to let them grow a bit stronger before potting them on into individual 3" pots? 

If so, i'm gonna need a lot more pots....  :o
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: Georgie on March 12, 2007, 22:17:19
My advice is to pot on your seedlings as soon as they are big enough to handle.  They don't need the propogator once they have germinated.

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Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: kitten on March 13, 2007, 13:38:28
Thanks Georgie, i know it's a v basic question, but i didn't want to risk losing them! kitten x
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: emmy1978 on March 13, 2007, 13:42:53
It is the basics Kitten!!  I posted a basic today too, but you gotta find out somehow and the books don't tell you these little facts do they?
I usually take the lid off my propagator as soon as everything has popped up, as you say, give them a bit of space to grow, strengthen up, then pot on, and yes, lots of pots!! I'm sowing a lot of stuff straight into the ground as I have tiny flat and limited windowsill space. Mini greenhouse full of flowers, no room for veg!! Will have to get another.  ;D
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: kitten on March 13, 2007, 14:37:02
Thanks emmy, glad to know there's someone else who asks these sort of questions  ;D  BUT....

I've just tried to re pot my little beetroot seedlings and it's pretty much the most frustrating thing i've ever done - i could spit i'm so annoyed!  I tried to ease them out of the little cells they're in, and the compost just kept falling apart, leaving me with the tiny thread like seedlings in my mitt.  Do you think we didn't firm the earth enough when we sowed them?

Exasperated, of Lincolnshire
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: manicscousers on March 13, 2007, 17:43:13
we planted pinches of carrots straight into small fibre pots so we can put them straight in the ground, same with beetroot, only 2 seeds per pot..I always find them too fiddly to transplant but then, I've got sore joints  :)
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: tim on March 13, 2007, 18:04:30
There's a difference, to my mind, between pricking out & potting up. Some teachings differ!

I view the first as moving a plant with 2 seed leaves (hold only these) & tiny root from a crowded tray into a container with  wider spacing.

The latter I see as putting a seedling with a well established root system (so that the soil does NOT drop off!) into, say, a 3" pot. This would then be potted on when it had filled that pot with roots.

With Beet & Chard, I reckon it's better to pre-germinate & 'plant' direct.
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: machman5 on March 13, 2007, 18:23:15
Tim, I've heard this said a few times now.... 'pre-germinate'  :-\.  Can you explain to me what it means? 
You explain things in such a way that I always understand ;D
Thanks,
Donna
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: katynewbie on March 13, 2007, 18:23:28
 ;D

The clearest explanation I have seen of the difference betwen those two things.

Thanks Tim, useful for lots of people!

;)
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: tim on March 13, 2007, 18:50:41
Mach - put them in moist kitchen tissue in the warm. Like sprouting edible beans - only different!
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: machman5 on March 13, 2007, 21:59:31
Quote from: tim on March 13, 2007, 18:50:41
Mach - put them in moist kitchen tissue in the warm. Like sprouting edible beans - only different!

Thanks Tim, I assume I then put into 3" pots?  Donna
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: SMP1704 on March 13, 2007, 23:11:58
or if it dry/warm enough and the ground is prepared, plant them straight out.

I did that with peas last year and had excellent results.  Also I'm told that mice won't touch them once they have sprouted and I don't think I lost any.

Being an impatient Aries, I pre-germinated my Sweet Peas this year and sowed several into 3" pots.  Coming up after a week in a plastic greenhouse.

The books say that beetroot doesn't like to be moved.  I sowed Boltardy last year, first in peat pots and then direct, but couldn't face throwing away the thinnings, so planted them on and had double beetroot - all perfectly formed. :D
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: tim on March 14, 2007, 06:50:17
Donna - I meant in their final positions.

I have had success with transplanting but, as SMP says, they are supposed to be touchy about it.

Not a lot of point, though,  in preparing them until the ground is fit to receive them. Nothing likes a check.
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: machman5 on March 14, 2007, 07:32:15
Right, gotcha, will give this a try, thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: Tee Gee on March 14, 2007, 14:05:47
Thanks Tim saved me a lot of typing!........... I agree with all that you have written 8)
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: tim on March 14, 2007, 15:15:18
I'm the one who should be wearing the shades!!
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: tim on March 14, 2007, 17:06:37
This is my sort of pricking out stage.
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 14, 2007, 22:39:10
I don't touch them at that stage. I let them grow a couple of proper leaves first. At that point I mostly put them straight into 3-inch pots.
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: tim on March 15, 2007, 08:06:43
Very correct!
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: kitten on March 15, 2007, 16:12:53
Quote from: tim on March 13, 2007, 18:04:30
a seedling with a well established root system (so that the soil does NOT drop off!) into, say, a 3" pot. This would then be potted on when it had filled that pot with roots.

With Beet & Chard, I reckon it's better to pre-germinate & 'plant' direct.

Thanks tim, it sounds like i'm being too impatient and moving them too early then.  Yes, i think i'll be sticking to sowing them direct in the future!  Thanks for the help  :)
Title: Re: Once they've germinated...
Post by: louise stella on March 15, 2007, 17:58:58
It's easy to get carried away at this time of year...I know I do!  But in the long run - if it can go straight in the ground - then let it!  because otherwise you end up hating the job of pricking out etc.... and you run out of room.  Save sowing seed in trays etc for the things that really need it!

Patience is the key here!

Louise
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