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Title: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: Jitterbug on March 08, 2007, 10:53:18
I thought that I would be wise and purchase a proper meter seeing that I will be using it for years instead of that little phial thingy magigy.  So I have purchased a PH soil meter.  Now it does not seem to be working as it is registering 7 all over my plot? ???  Or am I lucky with a reading of 7??

How do I test to see if it is broken?  I am not sure what to do now as my brassica  and asparagus beds is also registering 7 - to me that seems to be a good reading??  Anyone used one of these things before - it does not use batteries but has a long prong like attachment which you insert into the ground and wait 60 seconds for a reading - well mine does not move off 7!  Any ideas would be welcome.

Jitterbug
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: froglets on March 08, 2007, 11:10:21
Try putting it in some vinegar or a citrus fruit & see if it registers anything other than 7.
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: kenkew on March 08, 2007, 11:18:11
You need to mix a sample with water. I use mine by scraping a small hollow with a trowel then adding some clean water, mix to a muddy consistancy and put the probe in. Some say to use distilled water but if you use water from the same source for all your tests you should get fairly close.
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: Tee Gee on March 08, 2007, 15:07:53
Plus every time you use it clean it! I find one of the sponge backed pan scrubbers useful for this! (use pan scrubber side)
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: vee on March 08, 2007, 15:12:16
I got one last year and it never moved from 6.5, so I wasn't too confident either.

Now I can only find the packet it came in so I can't try vinegar which seems like a good idea. If it ever turns up I'll give that a go.
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: Jitterbug on March 08, 2007, 15:40:15
Thanks for that guys - I will get to the lottie this week-end - armed with some still mineral water and the meter and report back on my findings.  This meter came with a little green hard spongey thing so I will use it.

Jitterbug
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: Si on March 09, 2007, 02:52:06
I would aim for distilled water, not mineral water for the best results.

You mix the soil with some water in a beaker and let it settle so that you can see the sediment. Rinse the pH meter first with distilled water and dip it into the clear water, above the sediment. Hold it in there until the reading levels off. Rinse the meter and then your ready to go again :) Try a few to be certain.

If you still having probs, send me a sample.
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: Jitterbug on March 09, 2007, 15:09:47
thanks Si - will carry out tests this week-end and report back with my findings.

Jitterbug
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: telboy on March 09, 2007, 21:40:46
Si,
I would be interested where one can obtain distilled water these days.
Due to the 'control' of distillation - know what i mean?' one can only obtain demineralised H2O.
Would love to obtain some.
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 09, 2007, 22:10:39
It's not hard to rig up your own still!
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: chuff on March 10, 2007, 11:11:23
I have a ph metre that doesnt take batteries cost me a tenner from focus, always reads ph 7, I dont think they work properly :(
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: Sparkly on March 10, 2007, 12:47:18
Quote from: telboy on March 09, 2007, 21:40:46
Si,
I would be interested where one can obtain distilled water these days.
Due to the 'control' of distillation - know what i mean?' one can only obtain demineralised H2O.
Would love to obtain some.

ah there are disadvantages to being a science teacher!
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: jennym on March 10, 2007, 13:59:48
Quote from: telboy on March 09, 2007, 21:40:46
Si,
I would be interested where one can obtain distilled water these days.
Due to the 'control' of distillation - know what i mean?' one can only obtain demineralised H2O.
Would love to obtain some.
Cheapest source - scrapings off the inside of your freezer  ;D
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: telboy on March 25, 2007, 23:04:38
Frost free!
Anyroad up, if I had ice - wouldn't it very very weak corbonic acid?
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: cornykev on March 26, 2007, 17:17:08
I used  the water/capule shaky thingy and all four readings were 7.0 ph. ::) ???  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Soil PH Meter - am I using it properly or is it broken?
Post by: Si on March 26, 2007, 23:49:17
Quote from: telboy on March 09, 2007, 21:40:46
Si,
I would be interested where one can obtain distilled water these days.
Due to the 'control' of distillation - know what i mean?' one can only obtain demineralised H2O.
Would love to obtain some.

I'll try and find out for you telboy. Ice scrapings are an interesting idea.

QuoteI have a ph metre that doesnt take batteries cost me a tenner from focus, always reads ph 7, I dont think they work properly

You do need to calibrate some of them with standard solutions before you take a set of readings.