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Title: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: emmy1978 on February 23, 2007, 16:44:31
I am in bit of a tizz over this mountain of couch grass that I am currently building.  I'm sure I read in a thread here that it won't rot down as turf does, but lottie neighbours are saying it will. I was originally going to take it to tip as garden waste, to be totally rid of it and not have it taking up loads of room. (Only half plot so all space required for g/house construction etc)
So all you lovely peeps, what do you think? Be very grateful of all advice as don't want to hang on to it for a year hoping for loamy lovelyness and getting, well, couch grass and soil.  ??? :-\ :(
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on February 23, 2007, 16:46:21
Could drown it in your water butt, would make a nice feed.
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: manicscousers on February 23, 2007, 16:46:54
stick it in bin bags or empty compost bags, leave it for ages and you get a bag of soil,  :)
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: sally_cinnamon on February 23, 2007, 16:58:27
Or turn it into this...

http://www.healthsupplementsite.com/product_info.php?products_id=453690696 (http://www.healthsupplementsite.com/product_info.php?products_id=453690696)

and make it earn you some dosh!

PS.  I think I've got couch grass too.  Boohoo   :'(
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: caroline7758 on February 23, 2007, 17:01:42
Is there anyone who hasn't? >:(
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: timelady on February 23, 2007, 17:22:17
I have a growing mountain of the stuff too - Having clay soil, I just can't separate the soil from the roots very well. (My neighbour is but he has a LOT more time and on his hands.) At the moment it's becoming a backing wall to my bramble wall. I was told in a previous thread that it won't go loamy like turf but that I should cover it. But I have the space not to worry about it for now.

Tina.
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: Marymary on February 23, 2007, 17:22:36
Quote from: sally_cinnamon on February 23, 2007, 16:58:27
Or turn it into this...

http://www.healthsupplementsite.com/product_info.php?products_id=453690696 (http://www.healthsupplementsite.com/product_info.php?products_id=453690696)


Amazing - I wonder what it's supposed to do.
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: Baccy Man on February 23, 2007, 17:46:23
Quote from: Marymary on February 23, 2007, 17:22:36
Quote from: sally_cinnamon on February 23, 2007, 16:58:27
Or turn it into this...

http://www.healthsupplementsite.com/product_info.php?products_id=453690696 (http://www.healthsupplementsite.com/product_info.php?products_id=453690696)


Amazing - I wonder what it's supposed to do.

There are some medicinal uses listed here.
http://earthnotes.tripod.com/couchgrass.htm
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: Trixiebelle on February 23, 2007, 18:02:24
I could open a couch-grass product supermarket  ;D

I wonder if you can weave it into baskets as well ....
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: dtw on February 23, 2007, 18:28:49
Nice to see it's Kosher.  ::)
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: bunjies on February 23, 2007, 18:51:53
feed it to the rabbits!!!
they will recycle it for you ;)
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 23, 2007, 19:35:28
It will rot down perfectly satisfactorily. Just pile it up, cover it, and leave it.
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: emmy1978 on February 23, 2007, 19:51:14
Quote from: Trixiebelle on February 23, 2007, 18:02:24
I could open a couch-grass product supermarket  ;D

I wonder if you can weave it into baskets as well ....
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: emmy1978 on February 23, 2007, 19:53:14
If it sells at $7.95 an oz then I'm in the money people!! ;D
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: ruffmeister on February 24, 2007, 12:40:04
burn the stuff!!! easiest way lol!! seriously though if you want to compost it down, cover it in the thickest darket material you can and leave it for at least 1 year and voila, however i would say burn it or take it off the land altogether
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: cornykev on February 24, 2007, 13:03:37
Bag it and forget it for a year if it hasn't broke down then repeat. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: emmy1978 on February 24, 2007, 14:27:08
I would bag it and leave it, but there is already a huge amount and have only cleared athird of the plot. I'm already stacking manure and then with compost bins/ water butts/ shed/ etc I'm running out of space and don't really want it sitting there being all evil forever. Am inclined to maybe keep some to add to compost but really want it off the plot. Ho hum. Thanks all x :-\
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: Columbus on February 24, 2007, 14:44:23
Hi all,  :)

On plot number two I made turves into a number of heaps, one runs the whole width of the plot against the path and marks the edge of my plot and I planted spring bulbs in it which are just coming into bud.

Two others are bigger and provide shelter and privacy to my lawn area - I planted squash into these.

The rest is a huge pile leaning into three dalek composters full of the same stuff I think parts of that pile will be used to earth up spuds as required and so find its way back into the soil.

Col
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: louise stella on February 24, 2007, 17:05:31
I have tons of the stuff - I started making a heap and now thats full and covered so now I am bagging it and plonking it on top!  So I can just forget the d**n stuff and get on with the rest of the plot.  I have left four beds and will cardboard and poo mulch them to kill the stuff - I am going to grow curcubits through it!  Some has come up in  my so very thoughroughly weeded beds - but I find it comes out easily by hand or with a cultivator (great three pronged tool - long handled  - £4.99 from Wickes!!!!).

It does get easier and as this is my first year I am try to take a pragmatic approach - I'll get there in the end and so will you!

Plus it's easier when the sun shines!

Louise

Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 24, 2007, 22:21:40
This is how some of my couch ended up.
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: manicscousers on February 24, 2007, 22:23:25
nice soil there, robert  ;D
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: vee on February 24, 2007, 23:12:27
Like Robert said, it will rot down.
When I was clearing my plot I started by trying to pick every little bit out, but I could see that I would be there forever, so in the end I shook as much soil off as possible and stacked it grass to grass in a line along the edge of the plot about 2 to 3 ft deep.

Eighteen months later there was grass growing on the top and sides as I didn't cover it,  but underneath was some lovely soil. I just picked out the obvious roots and put the remainder into a dalek to compost down further.
The spread out soil grew some lovely dahlias and cosmos, and there was no sign of couch.
I must say I was surprised though, but I'd never have cleared my plot if I hadn't done as I did, and there was just too much to take away and bin it.

I also tried putting sods of couch around the remains of a bonfire in a sort of igloo, building it up until there is just a small hole at the top. This keeps the embers going and is supposed to kill off the roots. It does dry out the soil so that roots can be separated, but I'm not sure how well it works. Worth a try.
Title: Re: Couch Grass- work of the devil
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 25, 2007, 08:27:20
My guess is that it will work well as long as the sods don't just catch fire; I remember my father just sticking them on the bonfire, and they always burnt. Roots under and around a fire always seem to be killed.