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Title: Warming the Soil
Post by: Mrs T on February 12, 2007, 18:40:45
Hello every one, another question I hope you may be able to help me with.
I think I have to warm up the soil before planting parsnip seeds.  I have put down a double thickness of white fleece I bought from Wilkinsons.  Will this do the job?
Thanks
Mrs T
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: tim on February 12, 2007, 18:46:37
Know nothing about this but should it not be black?
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: Mrs T on February 12, 2007, 18:49:17
I thought black was for supressing weeds, maybe I got it wrong?
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 12, 2007, 18:58:59
Any colour will kill worms as long as it's opaque, but the blue stuff is best avoided at it breaks into little bits under ultraviolet and it's a real pain to get rid of. Fleece will warm soil, which is how it functions, but I suspect black plastic might do it better if you don't have anything in. Black absorbs heat far better than white!
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: Mrs T on February 12, 2007, 19:04:22
Robert - You did mean weeds didn't you, not worms, I dont want to kill worms, they are my friends!
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 12, 2007, 19:08:17
How on earth did I manage to write worms? I'm normally more careful than that; if I put a bloomer like that on the board with a difficult class, I'll never hear the last of it!
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: SMP1704 on February 12, 2007, 20:18:59
Mrs T, I think clear or black plastic or fleece will warm the soil.  Obviously choose a warm day to lay over the soil, otherwise you will just trap in the cold.

The books I read last year recommended clear plastic - just a well since OH had metres of the stuff left over from a marine job.  It was excellent at drying the soil (and my clay needed all the help it could get!) and I could see from the condensation that some warming action was going on, but the thing the book didn't mention was that it would propagate a fine crop of weeds.

In one way a good thing as I oiked them out before sowing the seeds.......on the other, I thought I had weeded the bed >:( >:(

I now regard weeding like washing or ironing - no matter how often you do it, it is never done :'(
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: OliveOil on February 12, 2007, 21:55:32
Was told clear plastic was better at warming soil that black... or did i get that wrong too SS???
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: saddad on February 12, 2007, 23:46:20
I agree with the weeding, treat as free green manure and keep turning them in!
;D
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: cornykev on February 13, 2007, 17:09:01
Robert you had me worried I read it ten times and worms kept stairing me in the face, detention for you sonny.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: kitten on February 14, 2007, 21:39:41
I was hoping to use a polythene tunnel thing like a long cloche to warm our soil.  The ones i've seen are clear polythene.  I'm hoping this will work for us! x
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: cornykev on February 15, 2007, 10:15:38
Should be fine kitten I'll be using one. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: cambourne7 on February 15, 2007, 14:01:05
I have planned to use some of the ridgid plastic sheeting i have over 3ft high wooden frame that streches over the bed to start to warm up the beds.

( Then i plan on leaving it over one for chillis, tomatos and pepers :-)
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: cacran on February 16, 2007, 15:31:42
I have inherited a couple of old patio doors on the allotment. The last guy has left them there. Didn't know what to do with them. If I layed them on the soil, would that do the warming up trick?
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: manicscousers on February 16, 2007, 18:19:19
make brill cold frames, cacran, if they've got glass in, of course  :)
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: saddad on February 16, 2007, 22:14:27
Raise them on two or three layers of brick Cacran and you have a cold frame to die for!
;D
Title: Re: Warming the Soil
Post by: cacran on February 17, 2007, 06:20:08
Oh, I have a lot of bricks so will give that a go. I am not sure how I would manage to lift the heavy doors on a regular basis, for watering and stuff. Anyone got any sollutions to that?