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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: CityChick on January 31, 2007, 08:49:46

Title: saving onion seed
Post by: CityChick on January 31, 2007, 08:49:46
Does anyone know how many plants I should grow if I want to save my own onion seed (well, banana shallot seed actually).  Google results tell me how.  And I imagine the more plants the better to keep it healthy and true to type. But...

Info I've read so far ranges from:

"Onions display a fair amount of inbreeding depression after two or three generations of self-pollination. Save and mix the seeds from at least two different plants."

to:

"you'll need a minimum of 40 plants, 80-100 is better" cough, splutter, whimper :o :o :o

That's quite some difference!! 

Anyone save their own onion seed and/or know what would be a realistic minimum number of bulbs to grow on for seed?
Title: Re: saving onion seed
Post by: kenkew on January 31, 2007, 08:57:24
The more you grow the better the chance of finding and keeping those that are true. It's how and where you grow them to minimize cross pollination that's the key. Bear in mind that specialist nursery's have close to sealed environments for that purpose, so if you can't isolate your plants them it's the old adage; Safety in numbers.
Title: Re: saving onion seed
Post by: CityChick on January 31, 2007, 09:08:04
Do you think 10 would be enough then?  That's what I'd planned.  I realise to minimise cross pollination and to maximise seed I'll need some sort of DIY isolation cage over them, and maybe introduce some pollinators too :-\ I didn't pick the easiest veg to save seed from, did I? ::)

Still, I'm sure it'll be a learning experience, if nothing else ;D
Title: Re: saving onion seed
Post by: kenkew on January 31, 2007, 09:16:46
I'm no expert and you had a recommendation above, I'm sure they know better than me.
Give it a go anyway. If you get half of them to what you want you'll have a heck of a lot of sed to save for when you buy your own Blue-peter garden.
:D
Title: Re: saving onion seed
Post by: CityChick on January 31, 2007, 09:18:32
 ;D Thanks.
Title: Re: saving onion seed
Post by: supersprout on January 31, 2007, 16:36:10
I'm reading the Sue Strickland Heritage Veg book at the mo CC, and she suggests collecting from around ten different plants to make sure the stock stays 'good' ::) Good luck with the seed saving (and the echalion research!) ;)
Title: Re: saving onion seed
Post by: dandelion on January 31, 2007, 17:10:42
Quote from: supersprout on January 31, 2007, 16:36:10
I'm reading the Sue Strickland Heritage Veg book at the mo CC, and she suggests collecting from around ten different plants to make sure the stock stays 'good' ::) Good luck with the seed saving (and the echalion research!) ;)

Does that apply to all seed saving, or just to onions SS?
Title: Re: saving onion seed
Post by: supersprout on January 31, 2007, 18:00:36
Different recommendations for different veggies dandelion, ten is a 'rule of thumb' :)