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Title: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: onzlow on January 23, 2007, 17:54:13
Hi
went to the garden center today and they had seed potatoes in as i grew them for the first time last year i bought 2 bags as i wanted to make sure i could get them .
however reading books etc they cant go in the ground for at least another month so what should i do with them to keep them good for planting ?

dark,light,covered,garage(havnt got a shed) or fridge?

or should i chit them now and get them in ? maris peer By the way
ps should i be starting onion seeds off in an unheated small greenhouse off now ,as i have a small electric heateri can put in if i need to start them off early

thanks in advance for your time
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: tim on January 23, 2007, 18:21:51
First - don't panic!! March for planting?

Options:
1. Frost free & dark. Spread out.
2. If you believe in 'chitting' - see several threads here - have a cool room indoors, layout in light -  ie grow sturdy green shoots. Many people, these days, say don't bother.
3. Mine have been in the light indoors for a month.
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: supersprout on January 23, 2007, 18:38:29
Perfect timing - see previous post.
Mine went into a light, cool room to chit (sprout) last week, and they'll go out in late March.
Nice variety second early! Alan Romans, potato guru, says:

It is perhaps the most attractive potato plant known, with domed symmetry and strong purple flowers; a summer walk through a field of scented 'Maris Peer' flowers beats even the cliched sunflower fantasy!
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cornykev on January 23, 2007, 19:07:55
Mine are in a darkened shed in potato sacks, didn't want them chitting too ealy should I put them in the egg boxes and let the light in. I will be chitting mine the books I read said it's important for first early's to chit to get a head start.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: kt. on January 23, 2007, 19:22:06
My 4 varieties have been laid out in veg racks for 8-10 days now. They are in my shed with no windows.
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: tim on January 23, 2007, 19:28:00
Kev - get'em laid out to breathe!!

They start to 'chit' in their own good time.
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cornykev on January 23, 2007, 20:01:52
Right you are Tim, shall I let the light in or not.   :-\ :-\ :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: onzlow on January 23, 2007, 20:05:51
ok so general consenus is  to open the net they are in and lay them out in a darkend place

i have a window in the garage but  i can cover them up


i can highly recommend them i bought a bag of 10 last year and had some quite early that were lovely but the others i forgot about till late september and thought id better clear the bed i started digging and there was hundreds!! ,ok a few were green as i didn't earth up but i was very pleased with the taste for chips, roasting and mash.
this year ill definatly earth up but effort to resuly value is outstanding

Thanks all for your help ,boy this is a busy forum ,lol
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: supersprout on January 23, 2007, 20:16:37
Get rid of the net altogether onz, it will tangle in the shoots and they'll break off :o
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: janet h 1948 on January 23, 2007, 20:28:01
I went shopping yesterday & Poundland had Unwins Desiree seed potatoes in stock. I've never grown potatoes before & don't know when to plant or anything. Any advise please.
Janet.
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: philcooper on January 23, 2007, 20:46:04
Onzlow & Cornykev,

Light or dark they will start sprouting when they feel like it. Laying them out lets air between them so reducing the danger of rotting, and, if one starts, the others do not "catch" the rot by contact.

If you keep them in the dark then check regularly, if they start to sprout then bring them into the light - but keep cool. If you don't you'll get long thin white sprouts - you want short fat green ones.

Janeth,

Keep them as described in this thread until the ground is much warmer - around mid March before planting out in trenches 4" deep, preferably with compost or farmyard manure in the bottom of the trench (the spuds need to be 4" below the level of the surface whether you include compost/fym or not. I also throw in a handful of fish blood and bone meal where each tuber is to be planted. The rows should be 2' 6" apart and tubers 15 - 18" apart in the rows.

Cover with soil to level the ground. As the leaves break through keep an eye out for frost, if it threatens then cover with fleece or, if you don't have any, a very thin layer of soil. When the leaves are 4" above the soil level pull soil from between the rows to earth up (cover the stems and leave the leaves just on the surface). Repeat this at least once. Then carefully hoe off weed on the ridges until the leaves have formed sufficient canopy to prevent weed growth. When they flower, pick off the flowers and give a good watering with a seaweed based liquid feed and water again if there is no rain.

No boubt information on identifying pests and diseases will appear on the list as spotted by mmebers

Phil
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: Blue Bird on January 23, 2007, 20:46:29
Try    http://tinyurl.com/2tplboy this was sent to me when I asked for similar advise  

Good luck  :) :)
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: caroline7758 on January 27, 2007, 17:07:30
Continuing this thread, I got my seed pots from Alan Romans yesterday (was surprised to see he supplies them in plastic bags rather than nets- got a bit of condensation). Most not showing any shoots but Orla with pronounced shoots up to half an inch. Should I put them in the dark to hold them back, put them in the light to stop the shoots getting too leggy, or rub them off and start again?  :-\I'm in Yorkshire so won't be planting early.
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cornykev on January 27, 2007, 19:58:49
Laid mine out in egg boxes today left  them in the lottie shed with a small window so it's got a bit of light, some of the early ACCENT have small sprouts already.
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: manicscousers on January 27, 2007, 20:00:49
getting ours tomorrow, accent, kestrel and desiree, already have premiere for in the poly so we'll be all set, come on, spring !!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cornykev on January 27, 2007, 20:07:41
Mine's accent, kestrel and pfa. Make sure you don't buy the whole shop Scousers.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: MattyJC on January 27, 2007, 20:23:54
Getting mine tomorrow...Please leave some for me at Ryton folks!! Last year T&M delivered my seed spuds a week before Xmas, which horrified me, but I unpacked them, chitted them and they were fine, so don't panic!

Regards

Matt
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: kt. on January 27, 2007, 21:16:34
Gonna go to spud day tomorrow. Though I already have 4 varieties, I may get up to 2 more - ones that our lottie shop dont sell. Lottie shop sells a dozen or so varieties, 25+ at the fair - not 100 like some of the larger ones. :(
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: sazhig on January 27, 2007, 22:00:39
Advice at Potato day at Ryton today was to lay them out in egg boxes or similar with the sprouting end up in the light &  cold (but frost free)...shed or cold bedroom...mine are going in our north facing, unheated conservatory. They can be kept in the dark but check them regularly & put in the light as soon as they sprout as the pale shoost that form in the dark are not good....

...I noticed a few replies on this thread mentioned kestrel...hope its not too late to mention but Kestrel sold out this morning at Ryton within the first hour of them opening....they do save some for the sunday sale as well I think so there should be some available, just get there early!

Saz
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: kt. on January 28, 2007, 22:18:54
Went to spud fair today at Acklam. Was there for 10am. It was jam packed! Got 2 more varieties - CARA & VERITY. These are what I wanted to try but were unavailable from our lottie shop unfortunately. Will definitely go again next year.

Don't know where I am gonna put 6 different kinds of spuds - 4 lates!. Never planted lates before, usually just do 1 early & 1 2nd early ::)

Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: sawfish on January 30, 2007, 10:09:32
Here's Montys potato chitting trial results..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/tv_and_radio/factsheets/pages/40.shtml

Apparently....

Chit earlies
Chit second earlies
Dont chit maincrop for best results.

Here's how we usually plant up in Glasgow

First Earlies: Plant towards the end of March:   Harvest June/July
Second Earlies: Plant early to mid April: Harvest July/August
Maincrop: Plant mid to end of April: Harvest September/October

Getting mine this week from West Carlston Garden Centre, Torrance, Glasgow.

£2.99 for 3kg bags

Red Duke of York
Pink Fir Apple
Salad Blue (my own)
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: supersprout on January 30, 2007, 10:42:02
Hey sawfish, nice to see you here ;D
SSx
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cacran on February 05, 2007, 06:54:58
I got some Desiree ones from Wilkinsons. I have layed them in a confectionary basket ( plastic with holes) not touching one another but put them in the greenhouse. Another lottie person told me to do this. What do you think??? I am a true novice.
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: supersprout on February 05, 2007, 07:02:40
They'll be fine. If you have some fleece, put it over them to protect against light frost. This will allow the light in, unlike a blanket! Are they also protected from rats i.e. on a trestle?

If heavy frost is forecast, I'd bring them indoors for the night, just in case.
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: philcooper on February 07, 2007, 16:47:27
Cacran,

The problem with a green house is that it can get awful hot on a sunny day - a north facing window in unheated room is ideal.

Caroline,

Putting sprouted seed in the dark will not stop the sprouting, it will mean that the sprouts will grow but be longer, thiner and paler than they would be in the light.
Mr Romans should not use poly bags (email him and let him know you're not happy) - a lot of seed from WCF Phoenix (where he gets his seed from) was sprouted this year, we were not happy and have told them so

Phil

Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cacran on February 08, 2007, 07:51:44
Hi Supersprout. will get some fleece on them today. Hope I am not too late as we've just had a couple of very cold days.

Hi Phil, I have not realy got anywhere else to put them at the moment. It was a choice of that or not chitting at all. I will have to make sure I get down to the lottie early in the mornings and open the door and window to keep the temp. down. I am so new to all this. Can't get into the shed yet as the guy who had the lottie last year, died. It still belongs to his wife until April, officially. When she feels up to it, she will clear the shed and next year I will probably be able to use that for the potatoes.

Carol
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cornykev on February 08, 2007, 16:16:14
Cacran you would be better leaving them indoors in a cold room or under the stairs.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cacran on February 10, 2007, 09:06:51
Okay Corny, Soon as this snow has gone, I will get down to the lottie and retrieve them. Would a garage be okay??? (just a thought!)
Title: Re: Have i bought my seed potatoes to early?
Post by: cornykev on February 10, 2007, 12:51:06
Garage is fine watch out for mice, I keep mine off the floor, not that it will stop the little buggers. By the way has your snow cleared yet the rain seems to have washed ours away. ;D ;D ;D