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Title: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Amazin on January 14, 2007, 00:20:04
I planted some daffs in pots outside in October. They're now around a foot high and have been in flower for almost a week.  :o

Wonder if they'll have a second flowering later?
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: mc55 on January 14, 2007, 00:48:46
wow, mine are just a few inches high.  Shows how unseasonal the weather is - will they be damaged if there is a frost / snow ?
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Tee Gee on January 14, 2007, 13:29:04
mine are just a few inches high. - will they be damaged if there is a frost / snow ?

No! but 'Amazin's might!!! however because these are in pots they can be moved indoors if needs be.
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: gardenqueen on January 16, 2007, 16:37:01
Quite a few daffofils in bud in my garden and that's in South Wales!
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: ruffmeister on January 17, 2007, 09:21:42
what is this year coming to it beggers belief! poor things.
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Hyacinth on January 17, 2007, 10:09:25
weird. I've daffodils in bud, yet crocuses are still behaving acording to norm. & just coming through ???
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: cookie on January 17, 2007, 16:51:34
We have just walked the dogs across the local  rec. Lo and behold, a  host of golden daffodils, all in flower. We are in South Somerset. :)
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Rowan on January 17, 2007, 18:13:51
There are daffs in bloom in my village, too - I saw a whole line of them in front of someone's fence this afternoon. I've some in flower in a pot outside the back door, too. Daffodils out in January? This is wierd! Most of the snowdrops aren't out yet.
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: cookie on January 21, 2007, 16:45:52
I have just returned from a  walk, and have noticed that the lovely daffodils that were in flower have been completely ruined. Some mindless person has trodden all over them! They were giving so many people pleasure, why do people do these things!!!!
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Hyacinth on January 26, 2007, 16:51:55
Update = now in vase in kitchen.....daffodils in full bloom + 2 roses (well, they ARE Iceberg :o)

:D
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Mrs Ava on January 27, 2007, 18:40:08
I have seen daffs open out and about.  Mine on the plot and in the garden are still quite a way off blooming. Maybe I buried them tooooooo deeply?
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: laurieuk on January 28, 2007, 14:08:00
I doubt if you could have planted then too deep.We reckon on a good five inches of soil above the bulb and they will be OK with nine inches, Do not forget there are varieties that flower from February until May. Our local show will be on April 14th but no concern yet that we will not have a good show of the later ones.
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 28, 2007, 14:16:14
Global warming  :(

Someone said to me the other day "There's no such thing as global warming - load of rubbish"

Yeah right ... tell that to a gardener  ::)
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Deeds on January 28, 2007, 15:38:25
Erm.... it's almost February, some varieties naturally flower in January so what's the problem?

Last year things were 4-6 weeks later than normal , this year they're a couple of weeks early. 

Global warming?  I think the old phrase one swallow does not a summer make should be considered.
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 28, 2007, 16:10:36
I'll agree to disagree Deeds. I think it is a VERY real problem.

One of our Italian allotment holders has been gardening for over 30yrs and has 4 allotments. He plants by the moon, doesn't know what global warming is, but was nearly in tears just before Christmas because he can't understand what's going on with his garden/the weather.

To me, that is VERY real  :(
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: laurieuk on January 28, 2007, 21:42:14
I started gardening in 1948 but cannot see anything in the garden to cry about, why not enjoy the early flowers etc. and if you believe in global warming do what you can to help otherwise take things as they come. We have had very hot weather 1976 and very rough weather 1987 before.

Quote from: Trixiebelle on January 28, 2007, 16:10:36
I'll agree to disagree Deeds. I think it is a VERY real problem.

One of our Italian allotment holders has been gardening for over 30yrs and has 4 allotments. He plants by the moon, doesn't know what global warming is, but was nearly in tears just before Christmas because he can't understand what's going on with his garden/the weather.

To me, that is VERY real  :(
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Deeds on January 29, 2007, 20:07:04
Trixibelle, you have your opinion, I have mine.

World climate is a cyclic thing - remember once the UK had a tropical climate, things change, and a couple of blips don't mean anything significant, a few years ago the world was heading for another ice age if you remember. 

The earth isn't a static entity, and whatever man does, it will survive, that doesn;t mean we or our way of life will.  I am not so arrogant as to think mankind is the be all and end all of life on this planet - far from it.

The hole in the ozone layer was going to be the big killer a few years ago, but that has healed, and I don't belive we healed it, it may have been a natural phenomenon, research didn't go back far enough to give any conclusive proof.

Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 29, 2007, 21:14:29
Ok Deeds!

I understand what you're saying. We have differing opinions ... it's not uncommon (especially on allotments!)


I know that the earth isn't a static entity but I disagree with your theory that whatever man does the Earth will survive.

The Earth does what the Earth does every year. It shouldn't have to adapt to the nonesensical things that the human population do to it year in and year out.

I think it's arrogant to assume that the Earth should fall into check with 'us'.

I'll shurrup now! Trixie XX


Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 29, 2007, 22:06:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ob9WdbXx0
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: cardinalflower on January 29, 2007, 22:33:32
Thanks trixiebell  :)

Enjoyed the snapshot of 'climate change' and whole heartedly agree with you.
Am sure it's a matter of time before the critics start seeing what really is going on in the world and how much human beings are consistently contributing to the destruction of this beautiful planet!
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 29, 2007, 22:59:54
Quote from: Deeds on January 29, 2007, 20:07:04
The hole in the ozone layer was going to be the big killer a few years ago, but that has healed, and I don't belive we healed it, it may have been a natural phenomenon, research didn't go back far enough to give any conclusive proof.

It's still there, it just isn't getting the publicity it used to. We've stopped putting a lot of the gases causing it into the atmosphere, but it's going to take till about the middle of the century before ozone levels (hopefully) return to 1970's levels. Trouble is, it takes anything up to a century for some of these gases to decay. As for it's being a 'natural' phenomenon, that went out of the window long since. CFC's and similar gases break down and release chlorine, which then acts as a catalyst, breaking down large quantities of ozone.
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: jennym on January 29, 2007, 23:34:23
Article re NASA report on the hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2414002,00.html
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Deeds on January 30, 2007, 17:05:06
Not my theory Trixibelle - maybe you're not familiar with the Gaia hypothesis first published by James Lovelock in the 1960's.
http://www.gaianet.fsbusiness.co.uk/gaiatheory.html (http://www.gaianet.fsbusiness.co.uk/gaiatheory.html).

Maybe it's the scientist in me, but it makes excellent sense.
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Deeds on January 30, 2007, 17:15:31
Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on January 29, 2007, 22:59:54
Quote from: Deeds on January 29, 2007, 20:07:04
The hole in the ozone layer was going to be the big killer a few years ago, but that has healed, and I don't belive we healed it, it may have been a natural phenomenon, research didn't go back far enough to give any conclusive proof.

It's still there, it just isn't getting the publicity it used to. We've stopped putting a lot of the gases causing it into the atmosphere, but it's going to take till about the middle of the century before ozone levels (hopefully) return to 1970's levels. Trouble is, it takes anything up to a century for some of these gases to decay. As for it's being a 'natural' phenomenon, that went out of the window long since. CFC's and similar gases break down and release chlorine, which then acts as a catalyst, breaking down large quantities of ozone.

Strange how interpretation can mean different things to different people.
I use this site, and it shows a decrease and suggests that volcanic activity has a large effect on it too.
http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/ (http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/)
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 30, 2007, 18:31:40
DEEDS! From the link you posted ...

"For me, the personal revelation of Gaia came quite suddenly - like a flash of enlightenment. I was in a small room on the top floor of a building at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. It was the autumn of 1965 ... "

In the autumn of 1965 I was in a small delivery room in a city centre hospital having a flash of enlightenment of my own.  I'd just been born  ;D
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 30, 2007, 21:16:51
Quote from: Deeds on January 30, 2007, 17:15:31
Strange how interpretation can mean different things to different people.
I use this site, and it shows a decrease and suggests that volcanic activity has a large effect on it too.
http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/ (http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/)

But looking at the site, it shows the area of the hole in 2006 as equalling the largest recorded (26 000 000 sq km), and the level as sinking to 100 Dobson units, while the lowest recorded was 96. Where's the info about volcanoes? This page confirms the link with CFC's. http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/facts/history.html
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Amazin on January 31, 2007, 00:31:31
er... ahem!...  my daffs are still flowering!

;D
Title: Re: Daffs with no sense of timing
Post by: Mrs Ava on February 01, 2007, 22:57:23
Well, after a visit to the allotment, I am proud to say that my dafffs aren't going to flower for at least another 2 or 3 weeks.  Some have buds, but they are still very small indeed.