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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Yuet_Lee on January 13, 2007, 23:57:52

Title: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Yuet_Lee on January 13, 2007, 23:57:52
Last week after Carol Klein's programme 'How to grow your vegetables'. She had mention Jerusalem Artichoke which I never know when is the best time to harvest  ???

After that programme,the next day when I went down to the plot. First thing to do was dug the Jerusalem Artichoke up to see what I got ;) Not bad result ;)
Got some red & white tubers! Seem red tubers doing much better than white ones :P
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/millyle/jerusalemartichoke12450.jpg)

trouble is after I been eaten them ,it made me so windly ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Curryandchips on January 14, 2007, 00:03:51
I just dug up another root today, intending to try gnocchi ... got about 6 left still in the ground. You soon find who are your real friends after eating JA's ... :D

Derek :)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: OliveOil on January 14, 2007, 09:03:43
Brilliant - I went to the garden centre yesterday and asked if they would be getting any JA's in... they said no as last year they sold them off for 10p each. I kindly informed them that Carol Klein had the national on JA alert and they would be making a mistake not to get the JA in. She said she would tell her boss (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: cornykev on January 14, 2007, 09:11:44
So thats where all these high winds :-[ are coming from I had a feeling it was Lancashire way :o , couldn't do us a favour Lee and point your butt northwards.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: supersprout on January 14, 2007, 10:00:25
The knobbly ones look fatter than the smooth ones Yuet_Lee, was there any difference in where they were planted/how you looked after them? ::)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Yuet_Lee on January 14, 2007, 17:15:39
;D ;D ;DCurry!

Olive oil,
I actually got my roots from tesco when they reduced from £1.99 to 30p for 6 little poor roots in a pack! :P Had try  four roasted in an oven,and planted two,which are the red ones you saw in the picture!  ;) That was the first time I try them two years ago!
Don't know why Tesco they sale it so expensive ??? ???

Cornykev,
Mother natural winds had blow southway ;D ;D ;D


Superspout,
they just in a separated pot put next to each other!
infact the knobbly ones been in a smaller pot all over the summer until I changed the pot in September. When I dug them up I didn't realise they've better roots then the others ;)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: theothermarg on January 14, 2007, 18:26:31
had some in my plot when i took over boiled them and didn,t like them so got rid
but after seeing c k prog( which i enjoyed) frying them wanted to give them another go, went to tesco,s and got 2 trays of6 for 10p each they are past their
best for eating (roots and sprouts) which suits my purpose, so her goes
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: saddad on January 14, 2007, 18:27:43
I grow Fuseau and mailed a dozen tubers each to two A4A members.... the P+P was a limiting factor!
;D
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Curryandchips on January 14, 2007, 19:05:55
Well I have just done (and eaten) artichoke gnocchi, in our case dressed with sage and nut pesto (recipe adapted from supersprout) and served with lightly fried onions and turkey (olive oil). The artichokes produced a far coarser texture than potato, but everyone declared the flavour better, and preferred the artichokes.

I removed the artichoke pulp using supersprout's squeeze and skin technique, and disposed of the skins after cooking. Perhaps next time I may use a mechanical aid to make a smooth artichoke puree ...

Will definitely try artichoke gnocchi again ...

Derek :)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: supersprout on January 14, 2007, 19:17:25
Yay! Another variation to try, thank you curry :)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: flossie on January 14, 2007, 20:14:08
Haven't tried artichokes or gnocchi but your dinner makes me feel very hungry
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Kea on January 15, 2007, 18:26:43
Supersprout what thread did you write about your 'squeeze and skin' technique?
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: okra on January 15, 2007, 19:06:05
Besides the wind problem - JA's can become a nuisance as the slightest little bit left in the ground will grow - which I suppose is not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: cornykev on January 15, 2007, 20:27:21
Never grown or tasted what does it actually taste of.    ::) :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: jennym on January 15, 2007, 20:47:00
Quote from: cornykev on January 15, 2007, 20:27:21
...what does it actually taste of...

Bit potatoey, bit chesnutty, bit like sweet potatoes. I like them a lot!
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: manicscousers on January 15, 2007, 20:48:58
silly question, would these irritate if someone had IBS ? :-\
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: cornykev on January 15, 2007, 21:21:14
Message received and returned yes I do live in Enfield the map is wrong. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: saddad on January 15, 2007, 22:02:01
If you have IBS I would give them a miss Manics. They contain a pentose sugar which our gut flora cannot digest so you would get that bloating and abdominal pain you would associate with IBS but not necessarily the squits associated with say Lactose intolerance....
:(
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: bennettsleg on January 15, 2007, 23:50:27
I was thrilled with our first harvest of them.  Thank gawd for a ready stock of asafoetida is all I can say, particularly as I'm on site with a client all day tomorrow!! :o
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: supersprout on January 16, 2007, 08:25:52
Quote from: Kea on January 15, 2007, 18:26:43
Supersprout what thread did you write about your 'squeeze and skin' technique?

Hi Kea,
first post in http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,91/topic,26627.0
:)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Curryandchips on January 16, 2007, 09:00:23
I will just add that I have used the technique a few times now and I find it great, although I have adapted it to suit my manner of working.

I put the drained pan of artichokes in a colander or bowl next to a chopping board on the worksurface. I then gently flatten the artichokes on the worksurface with the side of a large bladed knife ... pull the skins off and empty the artichokes back into the pan ... any grotty bits can be removed at the same time.

Works for me anyhow :)

Derek
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: urbandruid on January 16, 2007, 11:48:28
Latecomer to the thread, but I was fascinated by the ja's in GYOV too.  I'm gonna bung a load in this year and see what comes of it.  Hardly anyone round this neck of the woods has heard of them, so it'll be interesting when the flowers come up.
:)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: miniroots on January 16, 2007, 14:57:19
Does anyone know what kind of situation they like?
Do they like mostly sun, or will they cope with half shade?
Do they suffer slug attack?
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: supersprout on January 16, 2007, 15:57:51
They're very adaptable - will grow anywhere, but the better you treat them (soil, sun) the better they grow!
I've seen one or two holes in the odd tuber - not sure what causes it, but it's a tiny proportion of the crop here :)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: saddad on January 16, 2007, 16:24:13
Slugs will attack them but not food of choice... probably will cope with some shade but put mine out as a windbreak!
:-\
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Kea on January 16, 2007, 17:29:28
I've got quite a few holes in mine..looks like slugs going by the size.

Thanks SS for the link to your receipe I'm keen to eat more now.

Saddad i have IBS and don't have any problem with JA's, IBS is a fairly general condition it effects different people in different ways. My doctor told me to eat a bran cereal I knew that was a bad move for me but I tried it again. The result was horrendous pain but bran apparently helps a lot of people.
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: manicscousers on January 16, 2007, 19:20:53
f you have IBS I would give them a miss Manics. They contain a pentose sugar which our gut flora cannot digest so you would get that bloating and abdominal pain you would associate with IBS but not necessarily the squits associated with say Lactose intolerance....
Saddad

thanks saddad, got enough problems without making it any worse.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: supersprout on January 16, 2007, 21:16:30
Crikey, has anyone seen this, they are going on eBay too:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280069568313&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: okra on January 16, 2007, 21:39:08
JA's are set to rule the world, could it become like the Day of the Triffids
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: bennettsleg on January 16, 2007, 22:34:56
Quote from: supersprout on January 16, 2007, 21:16:30
Crikey, has anyone seen this, they are going on eBay too:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280069568313&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018

Blimey! they may as well have bought them from the supermarket!

BTW, I can't remember who sent me some JA freebies last year, but i'd just like to say a big thank you as the first digging of the crop gave a HUGE yield! Much more that I was expecting. Why can't potatoes grow that well!?
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: saddad on January 16, 2007, 23:17:33
I agree Kea... IBS is a cover all term... exclusion Diagnosis. Mine is total Lactose intolerance. They had me on Fibogel for months! I don't get discomfort with JA's but some people will.............
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: miniroots on January 17, 2007, 10:38:14
I've just been given some for free too!
Mind you my allotment letting agreement rules out selling produce for a profit... but what else could I put on ebay?
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Kea on January 17, 2007, 12:03:21
That's a good tip Saddad for IBS suffers if you're having pain try fybogel you don't have to take it continously but it can sort the pain.
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: supersprout on January 21, 2007, 11:02:45
A very good root of Fusea, lots of 'sweet potato' size big enough to peel and roast - luxury! Plenty left over for swapsie seed tubers which will go out next week :)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e220/supersprout/whats_cookin/artichokes_big.jpg)

Beauty tip for laydee gardeners - rub on hand cream before donning scullery maid gloves. Oy, who mentioned a stable door?  ::)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: artichoke on January 21, 2007, 21:31:36
Those are a FANTASTIC size, SS. Mine are much smaller.
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Kea on January 30, 2007, 17:26:57
I planted quite smooth ones but mine are very knobbly and have lots of holes from slugs in them. Each plant yields nearly a full bucket!
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: sawfish on February 24, 2007, 20:45:01
If I planted a regular artichoke tuber would it grow into an artichoke plant, like potato tubers do?
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 24, 2007, 21:36:50
Yes, it's the way to do it. They soon multiply. Find a corner where you can leave them permanently, and just add compost or whatever in the winter.
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Barnowl on February 25, 2007, 11:22:23
To reduce wind effect, try adding asafoetida - recommended a little while ago somewhere in this forum and it works for us.

Down to the last JA plant now, but with 10 plants averaging 4lbs plus of tubers each, there has been a lot more than we could easily cope with. :)
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Jeannine on February 25, 2007, 20:14:09
Hi re the windy blow problems..has anyone ever  thought about using Beano,take a little with your first bite of food and there are no percussions.It does work,not on dairy so no good with eggs, but I gave it the sprouts, mushy peas and onions test and it worked a treat, absolutely no problems. XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Pete the Plot on February 26, 2007, 20:24:47
My first year on a plot and really pleased with JAs. One of my "star" crops.

Have home grown Artichoke and kale soup every week. Still harvesting both.

Luckily I work from home - alone!
Title: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke
Post by: Barnowl on February 27, 2007, 09:36:32
Quote from: Jeannine on February 25, 2007, 20:14:09
Hi re the windy blow problems..has anyone ever  thought about using Beano,take a little with your first bite of food and there are no percussions...... XX Jeannine

I've some friends who are not convinced by asafoetida, so where would one buy Beano?  I'm determined to enable them to eat JA's and assume you're not referring to the comic  ;D