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Title: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: real food on January 07, 2007, 16:21:18
Having had problems growing Butternut Squash in the Glasgow Area, this Summer I took part in a National trial growing early maturing varieties.
One was Butternut Sprinter, which did not produce any useable crop. The other variety was still un-named, and produced 1 and a half Butternuts from 2 plants.
I grew them in a sheltered South facing bed.
I am curious to know how far North, others have managed to succeed growing Butternuts, out in the open ground.
Next year, I might try growing them under polythene.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: mc55 on January 07, 2007, 16:44:35
they grew fine for me (Sheffield) and my mum too (North Yorkshire).  All plant outside, bit of manure, watered regularly.  No special feed or molly-codling. I got about 20 fruit from 5 plants - had lots more forming, but were too late in season.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: saddad on January 07, 2007, 16:59:13
I'm further south in Derby and had no joy even with one in a poly... more my inadequacies than plant though as others on the site have managed them outside!
;D
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: glow777 on January 07, 2007, 17:27:06
grew fine for us in Buxton last year - just south of Manchester 35 miles North of saddad but high altitude(100ft).

however I think this was down the amazing summer we had rather than variety and expertease,

if I was to plant squashes again (and i will be doing) I will probably plant more Queensland Blue (seeds from this forum, supersprout i think!) they romp on producing whopping great big squashes that taste great

Glo
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: saddad on January 07, 2007, 17:33:11
Think you missed a Zero there Glow... Buxton is a thousand feet up!
;D
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: manicscousers on January 07, 2007, 17:34:34
grew fine here, golborne, warrington, got 7 off 3 plants but they were a bit short of water and the weather was cr*p, too cold, too wet, followed by too dry and very hot !!, we did fleece them when small, again, more small ones as the weather improved but too late to carry on. :)
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: glow777 on January 07, 2007, 17:39:48
Quote from: saddad on January 07, 2007, 17:33:11
Think you missed a Zero there Glow... Buxton is a thousand feet up!
;D
no wonder i'm out of breath walking back home from the pub. At least we'll be safe from global warming floods

:-)
G
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: Deb P on January 07, 2007, 18:38:14
Quote from: saddad on January 07, 2007, 16:59:13
I'm further south in Derby and had no joy even with one in a poly... more my inadequacies than plant though as others on the site have managed them outside!
;D

2005 I tried butternut squash in growbags, no luck at all.

2006, I built a new lasagne bed over a rough bit of my back garden, and they went mad!

Not sure if I will have room for them down the lottie this year... ::)
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 07, 2007, 19:29:12
I think the trick is to keep them warm and damp from the word go.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: legless on January 08, 2007, 10:10:55
they were fine for me on the plot in whitley bay (near newcastle), i forgot about them actually and then found several good fruits.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: supersprout on January 08, 2007, 10:35:20
What varieties has everyone found successful in the UK?
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: Larkspur on January 08, 2007, 10:55:50
I'm not very far north (Shropshire) but Cobnut has done paricularly well for me, a reliable half dozen 3lb+ fruit per plant 8).
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: cherry on January 09, 2007, 00:23:54
I'm in Edinburgh and grew Avalon and Cobnut last year.    Both grew well and I eventually got 2 from each plant.  There were a few baby ones that didn't quite make it .    They were very slow to start fruiting so I think I'll start them earlier this year and hope I can keep them going inside until the frosts are past.    Just roasted the last one last night it was delish - worth persevering for.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: SteveJ on January 10, 2007, 14:24:13
Hi Realfood,
Living in Perth and managed to grow a superb crop of Butternut Sprinters on the plot last season.  Managed to get approx 15 fruits off just one plant with an estimated combined weight of 20-25Kg. Only feed I gave them was the occassional diluted comfrey tea direct to their roots.  Planted through black plastic.

Have to bear in mind that the weather this year was absolutely fantastic, which may have helped somewhat.

Probably beginners luck and next will fail miserably.

Have just eaten the last one - and will definitely be trying to grow them again next year.

Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: real food on January 30, 2007, 20:41:14
Thank you to everybody who replied to my survey question. It seems to be quite difficult to grow them outside this far North (Glasgow), probably due to the lower sunshine totals and temperatures. The good results from Perth may be due to their higher sunshine and temperature totals for summer and autumn.
I will try again this year growing them under cloches.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: sawfish on January 30, 2007, 23:23:45
Grew a few types of pumpkin in my allotment in Glasgow.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: MrsKP on January 31, 2007, 06:51:35
more weegies about than I remember !  8)

Never tried squash before (so they scare me) and really don't know where I'd put them in the garden so they might have to wait for the elusive lottie.

::)
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: real food on January 31, 2007, 19:25:51
Yes, I agree Sawfish, that Winter Squash or Pumpkins are easy to grow outside in Glasgow, but have you had any success with Butternut Squash?
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: sawfish on February 01, 2007, 08:46:07
I'll give them a try this year.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: busy_lizzie on February 01, 2007, 12:07:46
Like Legless, mine grew very well in Whitley Bay, Tyne & Wear.  I usually grow squash but it was the first time I had grown butternuts last year, and they turned out well. As has been said,  they seemed to love the heat as long as they are well watered and have a heavily manured ground. Will be growing them again this year at my allotment. busy_lizzie
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: cacran on February 05, 2007, 06:39:42
Hi. Deb P mentioned a lasange bed. What is this, please?
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: Deb P on February 05, 2007, 10:19:12
You cover your ground with thick cardboard, and pile layers of manure, compost and/or topsoil on top to suppress any weed growth from underneath, and provide a nice growing medium for planting into. Then you can plant directly into the surface layers, topping with any kind of mulch ( I used grass cuttings) to help stop any new weeds getting established. I grew courgettes, butternut squash, wigwams of beans, chard and rhubarb in the bed I created last year. It has worked really well, I'm just going to top it up with compost in the spring and keep it going! ;D
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: Jeannine on February 12, 2007, 22:22:29
Hi my butternuts grew in East Yorkshire, as did the other dozen or so  different squash I did last year( I have a bit of a passion for squash and also tomatoes and melons)  I have only been back in the Uk for 6 years and it took me a while to get used to climate changes from West Coast of Canada, (the growing season is longer there,) but I found the secret for me was to start them off early, pot on and plant out a big plant. There are differnt strains on butternuts, maybe this makes a difference. Butternuts are not my favourites as they don't store as well as others but I do grow them.I have not had one make it this far but I still have several other types in storage that are doing just fine. Thought this may interest someone XX Jeannine. Now if I can work on organising my melon collection !!!
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: cacran on February 13, 2007, 09:16:36
Thanks for that. I thought a Lasagne bed was a bit like the old April fool joke 'the spagetti tree' one, LOL!
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 13, 2007, 09:23:34
Quote from: Jeannine on February 12, 2007, 22:22:29
  I have only been back in the Uk for 6 years and it took me a while to get used to climate changes from West Coast of Canada, (the growing season is longer there,) but I found the secret for me was to start them off early, pot on and plant out a big plant.

Whereabouts were you? I know someone who keeps bees at the northern end of BC, and had a real struggle breeding bees that could survive the winters. I suspect she's probably a long way north of where you were, but what always strikes me is that she's at the same latitude as the Lake District, with a far harsher climate. It shows how much difference the Gulf Stream makes.
Title: Re: Butternut Squash up North.
Post by: Jeannine on February 13, 2007, 19:29:30
Hi, I was in BC, just outside Vancouver,super long growing season as it os protected by Vancouver Island somewhat.XX Jeannine